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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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monsters they exist among us and

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sometimes they win

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even the devil was an angel once

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the world has its own rules

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and these rules are not human

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some of us seek answers to the origin

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and existence of cryptids in the

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unexplained

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join us as we venture beyond the known

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and accepted boundaries

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welcome to our nightmare

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of phantoms of monsters

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radio where we explore the strange and

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the unexplained

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i'm your host law stricker thanks for

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your description is very much needed and

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appreciated

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so

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tonight

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lee hampel is a retired math and physics

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teacher from illinois in the owner of a

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mysterious 35 acre hayfield

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along bray road near elkhorn wisconsin

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his experiences and research were

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featured in linda godfrey's book

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monsters among us and in the small town

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monsters production the bray road beast

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over the years lee has conducted further

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research on his farm

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in an effort to discover more evidence

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related to the brave beast

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phenomena

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and uh

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eric mendel our excuse eric mentel

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of

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bucks county paranormal investigation

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whose team has been actively

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investigating phenomena

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will be joining us as well so gentlemen

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thanks for joining me this evening

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hey elon how you doing lee

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hey how you doing eric

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thank you

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well it's great to have you um

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and first of all let me let me mention

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that lee will be on coast to coast

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tonight

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so you may want to tune in for that and

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uh thank you

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you know i think

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it could be a busy night anyway i just

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i just hope you uh

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uh

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don't get too wore out from all this i

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know how it is to be on coast to coast

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no problem

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35 years and

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you're talking six hours a day so

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that in itself is an achievement so uh

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i uh my hat's off to you

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um

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let me ask you when you bought this farm

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did you have any idea of what you were

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getting into

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oh absolutely none zero

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um never had heard of any

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beast of bray road nor had any interest

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i didn't farm there until 2011 was the

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first summer i farmed there i planted

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the hay and i had a local farmer

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who farmed it on shares and in 2011

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after my mom passed away bless her soul

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i was renting land from her

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my operation up to elkhorn

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and 2011 2012 and 2013

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i just i farmed it and nobody said

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anything i mean you know and then in

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2013 and september

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i made a mistake and i i cut hay

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and it was ready on a sunday but that

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sunday the bears were playing the

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packers and

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i thought i called the kid the guys were

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helping me from illinois and i said you

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can guys help sunday you'll know the

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from elkhorn helping me and i said can

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you guys help he goes no

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bears are playing the packers oh man i

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so i went to my farm and i was just

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going to drop the hay on the ground i

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had to get it bailed

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and i was passing by one of my neighbors

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and two of them were standing out there

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and i stopped in i said hey what do you

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guys do and they go nothing i said

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you're not watching the bears packer

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game no no i said you want to load some

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hay and they said sure

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and i said so what do you want and he

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said uh buy us a you know i'm in

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wisconsin so a bus or case of course

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so after you get there 600 bales of hey

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looking out the hayfield this would have

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hey you know the werewolf lives back on

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your property i go what do you talk what

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you know that you don't want to hear

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those particular words the werewolf

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property and uh

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and he said oh yeah i know my wife

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neighbors who i knew had seen it and he

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named four or five people and

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he said it was called the beast of bray

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road based on what linda named it and

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and i you know i had no interest and

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my west fence line and i went back a

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and nothing there was no grass

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disturbance so i thought the only thing

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slide out could get this would be a hawk

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it'd go down there

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so i guess peck it open and take the

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intestines

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well this is really strange and i had

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growing up on a dairy farm i grew up

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outdoors a lot uh doing hunting and and

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other activities in the in the woods and

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it could be a hawk

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this what i call a nest it was three

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and it's it's all magnets and it's put

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into a little pile i go okay this is not

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this is not a heart

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a picture of it well that was

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eight years ago and i have some pictures

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but uh it's been i should have dozens

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and dozens and dozens of pictures after

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putting out raccoon and 19 deer

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18 17 of them were carried away

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the werewolf lived back on your property

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when did you get in contact or with

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so i didn't even have a computer we have

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a computer but my wife uses it for a

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business so i don't touch that

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teacher friend who had a computer so i

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was getting that were

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you know had these lights on and had had

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funny funny creatures you know or or the

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deer be there then the myth would come

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in and then the deer would be gone and

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so uh and so we he said you gotta talk

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to somebody so i looked up on

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and linda's name came up and i emailed

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her in uh october of 2013.

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interesting

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so um

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what other than the the you know the

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carcasses that you put out there

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whether other type of evidence or

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strange occurrences have uh

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let you believe that something is

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roaming around your property

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well tracks are facts and i i have uh

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two separate types of tracks i sent you

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one

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which is a five toed seven pad

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canet track and

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look at it closely you'll see there's

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five toes there's a center pad and

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there's a heel pad i've seen this track

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hundreds of times i counted up before i

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came on the here i think about 15 people

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who

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i have brought to dnr of wisconsin have

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seen it

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and uh you know and i've sent it to

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track experts on my brother fred sent to

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track experts

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and nobody has

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been able to identify and they say

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there's no animal

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there's no canine animal there's one

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five-toed

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cat that lives in siberia that has five

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toes and six pads

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but this is a five-toed seven pad track

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and there's no known canine or no known

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animal that has this trash and yet i've

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seen it hundreds of times

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on my farm and right along my fence line

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on the neighbor's farm

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that's a fact that that trash has been

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noted

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and and i have castings and pictures

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many pictures of it and

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there's just no

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no animal that has that track they tell

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me it's double hit or

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but then there's a another animal

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stepped in it but i've tracked it half a

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mile many times and

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and uh it's it can

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continues to be the same track

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there's actually uh

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different there's i have a this one is

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about three and a half by three inches

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which would be the size of a wolf trap

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people say well it's an abnormal coyote

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abnormal county is like two to two and a

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half inches it's 50 bigger than a coyote

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trap

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and uh so

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they say well it's a double head and i

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you know i i track it for a half mile

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and it stays consistent so

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it is not a double head it's not an

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abnormal

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coyote

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um so it's it's it's absolutely a very

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very very unique track

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so when the dnr or the other experts had

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seen it what was their estimate as to

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how big this thing was and how it was

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getting around did they give you any

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idea

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none of them would concede that was

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bipedal

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i have snow tracks that where it it

291
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takes a four takes four foot step all

292
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the way across my property

293
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uh

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a four foot step in a straight line the

295
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balance of this particular animal and

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the ability for to take a four foot step

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for a quarter mile

298
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uh

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the one track expert told me how to be a

300
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very long-legged wolf now you know well

301
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okay it's a four foot step not stride

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step

303
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that's an eight foot stride if you

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considered being bipedal

305
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so the none of the experts would ever

306
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concede that it was a bipedal i also

307
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have

308
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uh pictures where it takes a 90 degree

309
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right angle just just just like a like a

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person could do

311
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and i've i've you know had people

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you know reenact that take that five

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that

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ninety degree corner

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and it fits perfectly with a bipedal

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animal so

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uh i mean i've seen the animals uh two

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times uh

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and what it looked like to you

320
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well the first time

321
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uh was at night 10 30 at night

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and uh and

323
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i came out of my driveway to head down

324
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down my driveway actually comes out in

325
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bowers i'm a quarter mile from bray road

326
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my my actual address is bowers which is

327
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a parallel road to bray road

328
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and the back end of my property is a

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quarter mile

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and when i pulled out of my uh pr my

331
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property

332
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i turned and

333
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right away there were two red eyes about

334
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three feet off the ground

335
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right next to the road and i knew

336
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instantly that

337
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that was not a coyote or was not a deer

338
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um

339
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they i've seen many times in their

340
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yellow yellow green eyes

341
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and so i threw my brights on and i was

342
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approximately 200 feet from it when i

343
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turned on my driveway

344
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it went then it went down the embankment

345
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and that embankment was four and a half

346
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feet uh

347
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uh deep and it was may 5th 2017.

348
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and

349
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top of the embankment

350
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and it's looking over the top of that at

351
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me so that puts it right at six six and

352
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a half feet

353
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and i threw my brights on and i tried to

354
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redirect them out into go towards it

355
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better and i'm moving i accelerated

356
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and instantaneously it jumps

357
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15 20 feet and i see one red eye and i

358
00:14:11,509 --> 00:14:10,160
mean just quicker than

359
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quicker than quick i don't know how to

360
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describe it even he jumped another 15 20

361
00:14:18,949 --> 00:14:17,360
feet and he turned again again i saw one

362
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more red eye

363
00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:20,079
and

364
00:14:25,829 --> 00:14:22,639
i thought i went down the road turned

365
00:14:27,829 --> 00:14:25,839
around came back called my brother fred

366
00:14:30,389 --> 00:14:27,839
uh it's like i call somebody because i

367
00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:30,399
gotta tell what this was what i just saw

368
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you know

369
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i thought i called him like maybe 11

370
00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:37,120
o'clock it's 10 30 i pull up maybe

371
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10 50 sometime in there

372
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and he says i called him around midnight

373
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so i don't know where i was for an hour

374
00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:48,480
and then that night i i became very ill

375
00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:50,720
too so those are some things that i've

376
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heard that

377
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have have occurred with other

378
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individuals who have

379
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you have seen the

380
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then

381
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october or may

382
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uh

383
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may 11th of 2021

384
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just a year ago at 3 30 in the afternoon

385
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i was out my property and i was going to

386
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check my cameras and i looked into the

387
00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:18,560
neighbors field

388
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and

389
00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:21,600
here it was a quarter mile away i took

390
00:15:26,870 --> 00:15:23,839
pictures with my iphone 11

391
00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:26,880
and it was crouched down and then it

392
00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:29,040
stood up and it walked

393
00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:31,120
away from me into the woods and dropped

394
00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:32,560
into all four and then it went into the

395
00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:34,320
woods and that's what i saw

396
00:15:38,550 --> 00:15:37,040
and that's what my pictures show

397
00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:38,560
a friend a

398
00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:40,800
person i know he he works in the camera

399
00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:42,560
industry in chicago he used to work in

400
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:43,759
hollywood

401
00:15:47,749 --> 00:15:46,160
and i told him about it and he said i

402
00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:47,759
have an app i'll tell you how big it is

403
00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:49,279
if you know how far away it is well you

404
00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:50,720
just go on google you can tell how far

405
00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:51,920
it is

406
00:15:56,710 --> 00:15:54,480
and his app said it was six and a half

407
00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:56,720
to seven feet tall and the shoulders

408
00:16:02,230 --> 00:16:00,240
were three to three and a half feet wide

409
00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:02,240
and and i went over there i called my

410
00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:03,600
brother fred

411
00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:05,600
and i went over there and i said stay on

412
00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:08,320
the phone because i'm going over i just

413
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:10,240
saw the creature i know i just saw the

414
00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:12,000
beast of gray road

415
00:16:16,230 --> 00:16:13,759
and

416
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:16,240
i told him i told him you know if this

417
00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:19,600
thing comes out you know uh just

418
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:21,279
just call the coroner or somebody

419
00:16:23,749 --> 00:16:22,250
because i'll just become

420
00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:23,759
[Laughter]

421
00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:25,920
that's on full floor because i know what

422
00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:28,959
the wrong thing is

423
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:31,519
and where it was crouched down

424
00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:34,320
it was drawing circles it drew circles

425
00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:37,199
in the ground fresh circles of draw on

426
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:39,120
the ground and then here were the

427
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:41,440
five-toed seven pad tracks

428
00:16:45,269 --> 00:16:42,959
um

429
00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:45,279
you know uh walking away yeah i was

430
00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:48,880
drawing circles in the ground so wow

431
00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:49,759
um

432
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:52,160
yeah yeah well you mentioned the

433
00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:54,399
possibility of supernatural aspect of

434
00:16:58,470 --> 00:16:55,839
this beast

435
00:17:01,590 --> 00:16:58,480
uh i've heard a lot of stories

436
00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:01,600
about you know the the bravery beast and

437
00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:04,000
some of the strange aspects to it of

438
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,400
course we've been investigating these

439
00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:08,079
upright canines

440
00:17:12,309 --> 00:17:11,360
in pennsylvania for years now and it's

441
00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:12,319
you know

442
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:14,319
they disappear they

443
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:16,640
they seem to have some type of it for

444
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:19,520
sound they calls uh people to back off

445
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:21,919
some people get ill like you said

446
00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:25,280
uh it's a lot of different things um

447
00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:27,600
so you do believe in that there is some

448
00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:30,400
paranormal or supernatural uh abilities

449
00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:34,320
that these beings oh absolutely

450
00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:36,400
it uh i mean

451
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,480
you track it in the snow and i've

452
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:40,240
you know i've had other people come my

453
00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:41,840
brother fred has seen it you'll be

454
00:17:45,830 --> 00:17:44,400
tracking along the snow and the normal

455
00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:45,840
the

456
00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:48,400
takes two to two you know two foot steps

457
00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:50,000
and there's another guy has a different

458
00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:51,520
track we call him the fist track he

459
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:53,679
takes about three foot steps but you'll

460
00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:55,440
be tracking all of a sudden there's just

461
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,720
no more tracks

462
00:18:00,789 --> 00:17:58,240
just ends

463
00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,799
and whether it it goes into another

464
00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:02,080
dimension

465
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:03,200
uh

466
00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:05,200
you know my brother fred said when the

467
00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:08,080
thin air uh you know but it just ends

468
00:18:11,270 --> 00:18:09,679
there's no there's no there's no more

469
00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:11,280
tracks and and then some and they'll

470
00:18:15,270 --> 00:18:12,799
just start

471
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,280
i mean i was i've been in my field and

472
00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:17,760
here's two tracks side by side a foot

473
00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:18,880
apart

474
00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:21,120
landed in my field in

475
00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,400
in snow

476
00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:24,400
and walked off

477
00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,720
i mean you mean you know i called

478
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,240
let's say my brother fred again i called

479
00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:31,039
him and he i said come up you got to see

480
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:33,520
this you got to come out here

481
00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,640
tell me a parachuted in i go

482
00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:38,400
i think something just parachuted there

483
00:18:46,150 --> 00:18:40,559
but

484
00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:46,160
many people have seen that where this

485
00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:49,039
tracks just end well there's no

486
00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:51,360
you gotta call it supernatural because

487
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:53,919
we have no natural animals that can be

488
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:56,960
walking along two to three foot steps

489
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:58,960
four footsteps

490
00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,559
and and just

491
00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:02,880
stop just disappear there's no more

492
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:06,080
steps yeah i mean that that that you

493
00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:08,960
gotta go supernatural

494
00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:10,640
well you know

495
00:19:15,510 --> 00:19:12,640
this is something we run into with them

496
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:15,520
with a mirror decrypted i mean bigfoot

497
00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:19,039
uh k you know cryptid canines uh wing

498
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:21,840
beans wing humanoids you know this fact

499
00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:24,799
that they can suddenly disappear or they

500
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,400
do things or

501
00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:28,240
that are just not

502
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:31,200
explainable and um yeah

503
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:32,640
so wow

504
00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:35,360
so eric let me ask you now you've been

505
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:38,320
out there twice now within the past year

506
00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:42,559
uh well within a year's time yeah uh

507
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:44,320
and you were on here

508
00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:46,080
i don't know how long ago doing about

509
00:19:51,270 --> 00:19:48,480
five or six months ago yeah six months

510
00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:51,280
ago uh it was october 2nd through the

511
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:54,799
4th of 2021 right and that we were just

512
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:57,919
out there april 28th through may 1st

513
00:20:01,669 --> 00:20:00,480
for the follow-up right

514
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:01,679
so

515
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:03,760
what have you know kind of give us a

516
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,440
thumbnail what you've been you know what

517
00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:07,440
you've been discovering out there i know

518
00:20:10,630 --> 00:20:08,640
you and lee

519
00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:10,640
have been together and uh working

520
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,400
together and uh

521
00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:14,400
tell us what you you know you have for

522
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,120
us

523
00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:17,200
well i mean first of all lee has given

524
00:20:20,950 --> 00:20:18,960
us you know full access to the property

525
00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,960
so that makes it a lot easier to do this

526
00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:22,480
investigation and

527
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:25,919
and has shown us pictures uh that are

528
00:20:29,669 --> 00:20:27,760
just blow you away i mean and the

529
00:20:32,149 --> 00:20:29,679
evidence that lee has

530
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:32,159
uh you know in in researching this

531
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:34,960
because his research has been so pure

532
00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,880
you know since the beginning here you

533
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:38,480
know so nothing

534
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:40,240
everything that he's been kind of going

535
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:42,400
you know every event that's happened

536
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,320
he's been documenting this which is

537
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,640
which is beautiful and as researchers we

538
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,880
love that because then you have a real

539
00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:49,760
time

540
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:51,880
uh you know

541
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:54,799
documentation of what's been going on

542
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:57,200
so when we were out there in october i

543
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,080
mean literally we hit the lottery in

544
00:21:04,789 --> 00:21:02,480
paranormal activity when we were there

545
00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:04,799
um and i like what lee just said about

546
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,280
parachuting down because i have that was

547
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,520
something that really struck me the

548
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:11,200
first time we were there

549
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:12,960
um and when we were there the night of

550
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,760
october 3rd i mean i'll never forget it

551
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:17,440
because uh with the prior to the

552
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,799
investigation

553
00:21:22,710 --> 00:21:21,039
we were lee was showing us pictures and

554
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:22,720
and all these different anomalies that

555
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:25,440
are going on these crazy lights in the

556
00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:26,400
woods

557
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:29,360
um very strange looking orbs in the sky

558
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,559
over the field

559
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,159
that look like they've got something

560
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:34,640
inside of them you know which got me

561
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:37,919
thinking about what we saw that night so

562
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,919
um the and you know i'm sure some of

563
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,600
your listeners know and i'll just recap

564
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,120
real quick we just

565
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:45,440
we basically uh when we started the

566
00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:47,360
investigation about 8 30 that night of

567
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:49,360
october third it was a sunday

568
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:50,480
and uh

569
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:52,720
as soon as we got out there

570
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,360
uh our team member dominic looked up

571
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:57,600
and he's like what the hell is that and

572
00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,080
he looks over and it was a solid orb now

573
00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:02,480
lee has gotten some orbs on his knight

574
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:05,440
scope this was a solid orb going over

575
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:07,200
the field and for all intents and

576
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:09,039
purposes it was a ufo

577
00:22:12,310 --> 00:22:10,720
you could see planes you could see the

578
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:12,320
planes on either side and they were you

579
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:14,799
know the flashing lights and whatnot

580
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:18,080
this was just a solid white orb going

581
00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:19,360
over the field

582
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:21,440
as it's going over it's going over fast

583
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,080
and then it does like a 45 degree angle

584
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:26,080
and disappeared you could see it all in

585
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,159
the video it's all right there

586
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:30,159
so we could not believe what that what

587
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:31,760
that was um

588
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:33,520
right after that and this is why when

589
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:36,480
lee said parachuting down it got me

590
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:37,840
thinking

591
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:41,520
was this orb depositing these creatures

592
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:42,960
or this creature

593
00:22:46,950 --> 00:22:45,440
because right after that we heard

594
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,960
this howl

595
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:48,240
that was

596
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:50,159
not it was definitely not a coyote it

597
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,200
was not a wolf it wasn't a dog it wasn't

598
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:54,720
a fox

599
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:56,480
owl all these things that we've gone

600
00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:58,720
through that we've listened to it's not

601
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,520
that this was like a guttural

602
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:03,600
almost it was almost like you a man

603
00:23:08,070 --> 00:23:05,919
screaming out in the field

604
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:08,080
and it was just low guttural thing and

605
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:10,720
we have a clip i think too of that but

606
00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:13,280
what we what that's what we heard and

607
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:15,200
we could not believe it we heard it in

608
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,799
the distance very

609
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:18,960
faintly in the distance and then we

610
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:21,440
heard another one closer

611
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:23,679
and then the third one that you'll hear

612
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,880
here is what uh what we heard

613
00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:28,000
i don't know if you got sound here or

614
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:36,549
yeah i don't know if does vince have the

615
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:37,919
sound up

616
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,430
but

617
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:46,000
the uh that particular clip oh my god

618
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:47,520
and it's on our video too you could hear

619
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:48,240
it

620
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,159
alive and well but you could see our

621
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,840
reactions there too i mean we were

622
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,279
shocked um

623
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,520
and it was that was the that was the

624
00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,760
second thing and the third thing which

625
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:01,600
has been happening to lee

626
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:03,039
and you could see it on his trail cam

627
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:04,400
pictures and we just talked about it

628
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:07,440
where this mist comes over

629
00:24:11,990 --> 00:24:09,279
we saw this mist start coming up from

630
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:12,000
the field now this mist has been also

631
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:15,039
associated with bigfoot sightings

632
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:17,039
it's also been associated with with

633
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,640
other cryptids

634
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,960
so this was very very strange and then

635
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,919
um

636
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,360
so that was and then we had a lot of

637
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:25,440
electronic disturbances out in the field

638
00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:28,240
that night and earlier in the day

639
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:32,400
we had um our drone operator scott it's

640
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,279
like lee took us down to the area where

641
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,520
we call the bait area where he had where

642
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,120
he just told you about where he had the

643
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:41,360
raccoon and the tall grass

644
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:43,760
so earlier that day i had baited that

645
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:45,279
area with steak bones that we had the

646
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:47,120
night before but we when we were down in

647
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,039
that area lee was taking us down lee was

648
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:51,279
on the tractor and we were following him

649
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:53,520
down on uh four wheelers

650
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:55,760
and scott on the drone has to wear these

651
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,320
like virtual reality glasses

652
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,400
we disappeared when we were in the field

653
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,799
he was he could not find us it's kind of

654
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:04,799
like we went into this area that was

655
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:07,520
completely void of anything

656
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,480
and then he somehow he found us again

657
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,720
but there was a blank spot

658
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,400
there was like a dead zone in that

659
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:16,000
particular area

660
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:17,919
and i think that's what's going on there

661
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:20,080
we you know lee and i think leo agree

662
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:22,320
with me because we've talked about this

663
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:23,600
you know there's a there's some kind of

664
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,080
a portal there it's uh

665
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,320
i mean it's just there's a lot of weird

666
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,480
really weird energy there and our

667
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:32,320
lavalier microphones were starting to

668
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,480
cut in and out right after we heard the

669
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:36,320
howl and that was the other thing too we

670
00:25:39,669 --> 00:25:38,559
didn't have any huge microphones on we

671
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,679
had little

672
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:42,400
uh lavalier microphones that were hooked

673
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:43,760
onto our jacket

674
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:47,520
that's how loud this thing was from

675
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:50,080
at least 150 yards away

676
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:53,120
and uh it was it was amazing and

677
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:56,480
so this last time we were there um you

678
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,760
know we did some we did some

679
00:26:02,149 --> 00:25:59,919
reconnaissance and and uh when we were

680
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:02,159
there the last time the corn was up

681
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:03,279
um

682
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,279
and again i think this corn

683
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,360
the way it was up it gave this creature

684
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,720
some cover

685
00:26:13,350 --> 00:26:11,039
because right after we heard the howl we

686
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,360
shined our light over to that area which

687
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,320
i didn't realize until lee told me later

688
00:26:20,230 --> 00:26:18,400
um and i kind of got disoriented when i

689
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:20,240
was out there but that was the wetlands

690
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:23,039
area that we heard this howl coming from

691
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:24,880
so we shined our light over there to see

692
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:26,400
if we can get any eye shine and sure

693
00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:27,679
enough we did

694
00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:30,080
and it was about six or seven feet up in

695
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,880
the tree line and you could see it

696
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:34,320
one of these things like going like that

697
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:37,120
so it was definitely looking at us and

698
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:39,279
you know and other researchers have been

699
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,960
there and you know and it's basically

700
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:41,919
like

701
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,279
telling this thing is telling them to

702
00:26:48,470 --> 00:26:46,960
get out of there

703
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,480
you know and

704
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:50,000
some people commented how come you guys

705
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,520
didn't stay longer

706
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:53,679
and it's like you know you want at that

707
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,240
point we had no protection whatsoever we

708
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:58,400
had like a radio and a flashlight that

709
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:59,279
was it

710
00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:00,080
but

711
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:01,760
you know it was uh

712
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:02,880
it was

713
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,360
really kind of like life-changing to be

714
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,559
honest with you because i had always

715
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,480
heard about the beast debray road

716
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,039
and i had thought we're going to go out

717
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,559
we're going to get a great video we're

718
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,960
going to do this great documentary not

719
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:16,480
thinking that we'd actually encounter

720
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,120
the creature but we did

721
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:21,679
you know um jay picochen's in in the

722
00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:23,200
chat tonight he mentioned something

723
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:25,679
about the uh lost time

724
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:28,240
and uh

725
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,559
you know and lee has mentioned that too

726
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,640
and i have heard others talk about it as

727
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,600
well

728
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:35,520
hey lon

729
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:37,520
vince has the the clip again yeah go

730
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,279
ahead vince put it up there

731
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:41,279
this is what are you hearing this howl i

732
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:43,200
am hearing this hell it's coming from

733
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,470
oh [\h__\h]

734
00:27:50,480 --> 00:28:02,230
that's getting closer

735
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:04,310
so yeah

736
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,159
it was nothing that you and you know you

737
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:07,679
know what a coyote sounds like

738
00:28:11,269 --> 00:28:10,320
absolutely you know what a wolf sounds

739
00:28:15,029 --> 00:28:11,279
like

740
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,230
and lee didn't you say you so you took

741
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:20,159
the clip over to your neighbor

742
00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:21,520
and he says oh yeah that thing's been

743
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:24,159
hanging around for a couple of weeks

744
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:26,080
yes yeah he said

745
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:28,840
um my one neighbor um

746
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:33,600
has has uh heard uh many sounds uh he a

747
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,039
hyena type sound was chasing coyotes uh

748
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,720
two years ago

749
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:41,039
and so i took your clip over to him and

750
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:42,320
i said

751
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:48,559
you know some researchers found and and

752
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,000
uh here's what they heard out in the

753
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,559
field and i played it for him and

754
00:28:57,029 --> 00:28:54,960
he said oh you're that thing and this

755
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,039
was right after your

756
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:59,520
video came out uh which would have been

757
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:00,320
like

758
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,440
uh octo end of october i think

759
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:05,440
you really had it very quickly and very

760
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:06,399
well

761
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:08,080
and uh he said

762
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,600
i've been yes i've been hearing that

763
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:11,760
sound that's been a lot closer

764
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:14,240
up by these hot up closer by my barns

765
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:15,679
here and

766
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:17,679
they said yeah i don't i do not stay out

767
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:19,760
here at night anymore

768
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:23,279
he said i heard it i it was very close i

769
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,279
called my wife i said bring the truck

770
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,039
out come out because it's an out

771
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:29,760
building that is he has a shop in

772
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:32,399
and he said come out and get me and uh

773
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:35,520
uh he he would not walk to from the from

774
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:38,640
the shop to his barn once you shop to

775
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,679
his house

776
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,840
which would be probably

777
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,360
well

778
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:46,080
two 300 feet football field yeah you

779
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:47,039
know

780
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:48,640
and he said yeah i don't stay out here

781
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:50,720
tonight he said that that

782
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:52,480
that that sound has been here for a

783
00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,600
couple of weeks now see i mean lon we're

784
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,360
talking about people that can't don't

785
00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,799
want to leave their houses with these

786
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:00,880
things out there you know i mean it's

787
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:01,760
like

788
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,640
now we now we were just there

789
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:06,399
and i mean i don't know where i don't

790
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,720
want to get ahead of myself here let me

791
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,200
let me uh ask vincent go ahead and key

792
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,760
that up again so we get a second crack

793
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:14,880
at this

794
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:17,840
um so everybody is ready for it can

795
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,399
listen to it

796
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,480
go ahead are you hearing this howl i am

797
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:24,399
hearing this hell it's coming from over

798
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,510
oh [\h__\h]

799
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:43,669
that's getting closer

800
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:45,830
well that's no

801
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:48,559
coyote i've ever heard

802
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:49,760
no

803
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,840
that's interesting

804
00:30:58,590 --> 00:30:55,120
and uh

805
00:31:03,110 --> 00:30:58,600
to add on to the story in

806
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,120
2019 before the covet yeah summer 2019

807
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:04,640
out in my truck

808
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:07,440
and i was looking through my uh nice

809
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,480
scope and was watching orbs come and go

810
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,240
and play games with me they come up to

811
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,559
my truck and play peek-a-boo they come

812
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:16,000
up the front they go down and they come

813
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:19,120
around the side and um

814
00:31:23,590 --> 00:31:21,200
i called a friend and i said you know to

815
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:23,600
tell him i was out in the field and

816
00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:25,840
and uh yeah there's an orb you have up

817
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:28,159
there now orbit and a shaft of light

818
00:31:31,430 --> 00:31:29,760
i've seen i have hundreds and hundreds

819
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:31,440
of pictures of those

820
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:33,120
and that

821
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:34,720
was a little bit different sound than

822
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:37,120
that but very similar sound to that

823
00:31:42,630 --> 00:31:40,159
and it was very close and and uh

824
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,640
and over the phone he said what the hell

825
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:44,000
is that

826
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,919
oh but it's right here in the wetland

827
00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:47,360
and i was parked

828
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:50,000
very close to the wet my wetland area

829
00:31:53,030 --> 00:31:51,760
and i go i don't know but i'm not

830
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:53,040
getting out of the truck

831
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,000
[Laughter]

832
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:58,399
because then there was rustling in the

833
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:00,320
grass and the wetland grass you could

834
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:02,240
hear the rustling in there

835
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:04,960
of course i i was already my truck

836
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:06,080
by

837
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:07,519
which i had told

838
00:32:11,830 --> 00:32:10,080
uh eric he should take out i take out a

839
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,840
flare gun

840
00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:13,120
because i don't think

841
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:14,320
first of all i don't want to shoot it

842
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,320
and second of all i don't think a

843
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:18,640
any type of a gun would would hurt it at

844
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:21,600
all um so i took third and hopefully it

845
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:23,279
would scare and had the flare gun with

846
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:25,279
me when i go out and take that

847
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,799
and uh and he heard it over the phone

848
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,120
uh when i was talking in my truck right

849
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:32,880
the windows down but

850
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:35,840
uh and and i've heard another time uh

851
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:38,240
probably just 10 feet from my truck

852
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:39,679
um

853
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:42,559
i heard there there was uh a friend

854
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,399
heard rustling again coming out of the

855
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,039
wetland and came behind my truck

856
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:49,360
and then it went by my passenger door

857
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,960
and at that point

858
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:52,720
probably ten fifteen or eight feet away

859
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,440
from my pet the door that it was a grunt

860
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:57,600
or a growl i i don't kind of hard to

861
00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:59,519
distinguish what it was but

862
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:00,480
um

863
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:04,480
right right next to my passenger door so

864
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,120
some people are asking uh they can hear

865
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,440
that audio again they they can hear it

866
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:11,600
on that video it's on our channel it's

867
00:33:15,190 --> 00:33:13,519
uh you know it's called the beast of ray

868
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:15,200
road alive and well eric mintel

869
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,399
investigates

870
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:18,080
check it out say you know

871
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:20,720
give it a listen because uh i mean it's

872
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,880
still perplexing

873
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:24,720
i mean for us to be there that night and

874
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,279
you know lon the thing is we're out in

875
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,760
the field we're doing this research lee

876
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:31,519
is out in the field we're out in the

877
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:32,480
field

878
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,240
we're out there you know we're doing

879
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:36,159
this this research

880
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:38,960
i mean somebody had said to me uh

881
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:40,640
at the town hall we had

882
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:42,720
recently she said well has this thing

883
00:33:48,389 --> 00:33:43,600
ever

884
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:48,399
attack anyone and i had just she was

885
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:49,600
like well why didn't you stay out there

886
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,440
long and i was like well i didn't want

887
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:53,440
to get i didn't want to you know

888
00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:55,039
stay out there and find out if it was

889
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:56,559
going to attack anybody you know in no

890
00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:59,279
sense beating the beast exactly exactly

891
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,080
so

892
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:02,320
uh and like lee said we we should have

893
00:34:05,830 --> 00:34:03,600
taken the flare gun that's what we

894
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:05,840
should have done

895
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,600
also also

896
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,520
what my brother fred told you was that

897
00:34:14,069 --> 00:34:11,919
change is out there at night oh that's

898
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:14,079
one thing fred this is the other thing

899
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,960
lon if you talk to fred to lee's brother

900
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:18,159
fred

901
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:20,560
these guys are this is what i love about

902
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:21,919
lee and fred

903
00:34:26,389 --> 00:34:22,800
fred

904
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,399
came at he's an ibm guy he's a guy that

905
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,960
didn't have any interest in whatsoever

906
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,800
but then talking to him and then having

907
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,280
his own experiences on the farm he's a

908
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:35,520
true believer now and some of the things

909
00:34:38,790 --> 00:34:36,320
that

910
00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:38,800
also the last time we were there

911
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:41,359
uh lee you you and fred found these

912
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:43,839
square tracks and this time around we

913
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:46,720
saw we went to a new area and we saw a

914
00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:48,560
lot of these square tracks

915
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:50,720
which were really really interesting

916
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,119
i've been seeing those since 2013 and

917
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,359
the 5 7 yes

918
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,560
um

919
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,000
do they look uh

920
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,720
man-made like some type of uh device or

921
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:03,280
something yeah i didn't send you one of

922
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:05,599
those pictures it's it's a four four

923
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:08,480
inch by four inch track and the best way

924
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,240
and and this this uh he this one he's

925
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:15,359
he's large he's heavy uh he sinks in dry

926
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:18,079
ground like two two and a half inches

927
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,880
and it just looks like

928
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,960
it looks like if you could take if i had

929
00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:24,960
to imitate i would take my fist dig it

930
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:28,839
in the ground and spin the dirt

931
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:32,480
backwards and again back to half a mile

932
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:34,880
i know it's been carrying a whole deer

933
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:38,079
uh walking in in the in the field and

934
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,359
and uh

935
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,079
not knocking down corn

936
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,200
and uh and these tracks are again he

937
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,760
takes about three foot normal step

938
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:49,359
and it's it's

939
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:51,440
it's a track that even

940
00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:54,320
the track experts that fred is the one

941
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:56,880
from uh he my brother fred contacted the

942
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:58,640
field museum in chicago and they gave

943
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,440
him a track expert in utah or wyoming

944
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:02,880
i'm not quite sure

945
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,680
and he said that that somebody was

946
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:08,160
walking around had bought crutches or

947
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:14,550
you know what you know what people walk

948
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:17,359
on uh now we can't remember it uh at

949
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,280
home depot and we're walking around in

950
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:22,320
my field on stilts yeah built stilts

951
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,119
right

952
00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:25,599
yeah which is ridiculous

953
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,160
it's even you know an animal it's that's

954
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:30,720
a that's extremely unusual story well

955
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:33,040
both of them are and you've seen that

956
00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:34,960
track hundreds of times and many people

957
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:37,200
have oh you know the reason i asked you

958
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:38,240
this is

959
00:36:41,829 --> 00:36:39,520
you do have that

960
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,839
do you you know you mentioned something

961
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:44,480
about ufos

962
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,280
uh

963
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:47,359
do you think it might be craft that or

964
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:49,599
landing out there

965
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:52,480
well i mean i know it i

966
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,760
i know it's landed because i have well

967
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,520
the five-toed this one i've never seen

968
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:58,880
this one land

969
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:59,839
um

970
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:00,720
but

971
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,480
know it lands and and what one time i

972
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,040
had about 150 pound deer and it was only

973
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,240
there for like a week that i'd put out

974
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:15,119
and it carried it whatever again right

975
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:16,800
in front of all in front of working

976
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:19,280
cameras it picked that deer up carried

977
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:21,520
about a hundred feet out in my field and

978
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,400
here was an area about 10 feet by 10

979
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,359
feet where all the grass all my hay

980
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,280
field was knocked down that was in june

981
00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:31,440
of 2015

982
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:35,119
and and all the on all the there was all

983
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,560
this area had been disturbed it was very

984
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:41,119
very evident because the the rest of the

985
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:43,359
field was standing like normal hay

986
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:44,400
and

987
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,640
that there was one track coming in where

988
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,800
he had this creature the beast where i

989
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:52,560
had carried the deer

990
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:53,520
and

991
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:57,920
then on my uh i had a ufo on my uh on my

992
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,480
game camera

993
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:02,880
when i checked my sd card i had a ufo on

994
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:06,480
there so i know that this deer was

995
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:08,160
carried into the field

996
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,960
and

997
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:10,160
you know was

998
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:12,000
whatever was carrying it and the deer

999
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,440
itself were both

1000
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:16,160
were both uh uh gone and there was no

1001
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,040
tracks going out of that 10 foot by 10

1002
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:21,359
foot area would and look if you really

1003
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:23,760
look at it looked like four pods and

1004
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,480
then

1005
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:27,040
the grass was had been

1006
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:29,119
matted or knocked out so

1007
00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:30,240
um

1008
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:31,440
so yeah

1009
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:33,920
you know i have a lot of ufo pictures

1010
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,200
too many many uf holders

1011
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:39,599
you know it's interesting i uh

1012
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:42,079
of course i i've

1013
00:38:48,310 --> 00:38:45,119
ufo theory encrypted has come up

1014
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:48,320
many many times i i was involved with a

1015
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:51,599
habituation up in nova scotia where

1016
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:54,480
they were seeing craft and uh these

1017
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,880
things were getting out of the craft

1018
00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:58,000
uh

1019
00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:58,839
and

1020
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,839
um i was just wondering maybe that's

1021
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:03,920
possibility that's what's going on and

1022
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,560
you know they seem to just turn up out

1023
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:08,000
of nowhere

1024
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:09,119
yeah

1025
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:12,720
of you think there's a pack of these

1026
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:15,280
beasts up there

1027
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:16,880
i do i do

1028
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,480
i think there's five i i say five i have

1029
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,079
i i have

1030
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,000
definitely two different five toed seven

1031
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:26,160
pad tracks different sizes i have the

1032
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:28,079
fifth track and then i have another i

1033
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:30,400
call a hyena track which is

1034
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:31,839
uh

1035
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,240
that'd be one two three four

1036
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:36,320
but i think there's but i do believe

1037
00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,599
there's two

1038
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:39,680
the the five toed seven pad tracks that

1039
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,680
are both three three by three and a half

1040
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,760
inches because i i've seen those come

1041
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:46,079
into my field in the snow side by side

1042
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:46,800
and

1043
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:49,359
so i think there's five at least five

1044
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,400
cryptids in my field yes so lon you know

1045
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,960
this this story goes back to the 30s i

1046
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:57,359
mean from 1936 was one of the first

1047
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:58,960
sightings of this thing now is it the

1048
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:01,359
same creature i don't think so i think

1049
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:02,960
there's a family of these things and i

1050
00:40:08,790 --> 00:40:05,359
think it's it's descendants or or

1051
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:08,800
offspring of the of these these cryptids

1052
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:11,920
um but yeah i agree with lee i 100

1053
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:14,079
there's definitely at least five maybe

1054
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:15,119
six

1055
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,319
um because just just the amount of

1056
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,160
evidence that you're getting i mean this

1057
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,560
is a that picture right there was uh was

1058
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:24,480
an eyewitness description of what a

1059
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:27,599
woman saw on bray road right you know

1060
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,760
linda drew that yeah

1061
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:32,000
linda linda got and let's give linda

1062
00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:33,440
some props here too because linda

1063
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,640
godfrey incredible lady i mean she she

1064
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:38,480
really brought this to the to the

1065
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:40,720
forefront in the early 90s when when

1066
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:42,960
sightings started happening you had a

1067
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:45,599
large uh period of time when no one was

1068
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:47,040
talking about this

1069
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:48,960
because no one wanted to get ridiculed

1070
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:49,839
you know

1071
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:52,800
now people are talking about it because

1072
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:54,800
look you know the government's uh

1073
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:57,760
declassifying all the ufo footage all

1074
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:00,800
the ufo phenomena so i think you're and

1075
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,040
especially now maybe not 10 years ago

1076
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:04,960
but i think now more more and more

1077
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:07,760
people are open to talking about their

1078
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,640
own experiences oh yeah and you know not

1079
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,839
because

1080
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:13,520
i think it's uh you know and that's a

1081
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,200
good thing you know at least they're uh

1082
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,800
you know not being ridiculed or anything

1083
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:18,960
like that anymore because this is a real

1084
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,359
phenomena i mean we are we've captured

1085
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:23,839
it on video so it's there something is

1086
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,319
there lee has a monster on his property

1087
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,240
yeah

1088
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,240
there still is a stigma i know five

1089
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,079
people have seen it

1090
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:35,040
and none of those people would

1091
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:36,000
uh

1092
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,920
probably go on on any type of show um

1093
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:41,839
you know they they

1094
00:41:46,150 --> 00:41:44,480
they went on one show uh on travel

1095
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:46,160
channel legend hunters and since that

1096
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,710
and uh but i have other

1097
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:54,720
other neighbors that absolutely will not

1098
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,309
well you know i remember when linda

1099
00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:02,079
first came out with this like i'm doing

1100
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:03,920
this myself for a long time but i

1101
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:06,000
remember when linda came out

1102
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,040
and uh this was um

1103
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:11,359
this is right after

1104
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:13,920
the gable film had come out with the

1105
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,880
michigan dog man and you know there was

1106
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,800
a big uproar about that which you know

1107
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:20,880
it was eventually

1108
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:23,680
found to be just a fake you know fake

1109
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:25,920
and i but

1110
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:27,760
i know linda got a lot of a lot of

1111
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,480
pushback on what she was reporting

1112
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:32,960
uh here's this uh

1113
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:35,680
this reporter out of the midwest who

1114
00:42:40,309 --> 00:42:38,160
nobody knows and who's also an artist

1115
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,319
and drawing these things and

1116
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,079
uh but

1117
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:44,160
i you're right i got to give her credit

1118
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,640
she stuck with it and she kept gathering

1119
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:48,000
evidence

1120
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,760
and uh it is what it is now and uh it's

1121
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:53,520
it's amazing

1122
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,560
it's an amazing phenomena

1123
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:58,720
it's incredible i mean it's like uh the

1124
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,880
the whole property is fascinating i mean

1125
00:43:05,510 --> 00:43:02,640
you know the uh and there's so many

1126
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:05,520
different areas uh now we just went back

1127
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,880
um april 28 through may first

1128
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,040
and i mean we had our work cut out for

1129
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,119
us every single day we we were doing

1130
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,520
something on when we got when we flew

1131
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,359
into town on the 28th

1132
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:19,599
uh we had a town hall meeting

1133
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,319
uh our our executive producer for this

1134
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,319
video ellen collins she put together

1135
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:26,480
this uh this town hall got it all

1136
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:27,359
together

1137
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:30,640
and uh and the guy um chad lewis at the

1138
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,400
um uh at the library right

1139
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:37,280
he was uh he was he was just floored

1140
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,040
with how many people showed up i mean we

1141
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,040
had over well it was a hundred and i

1142
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:44,000
think almost 140 people showed up wow

1143
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:45,440
and

1144
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:47,200
telling their stories

1145
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,240
um and it was amazing and

1146
00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,880
what really struck me this time and lee

1147
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,480
talked about it just a little bit ago

1148
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:56,960
about the the way this thing walks

1149
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,960
and those track impressions that he has

1150
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,560
on some of these photos

1151
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,520
um there were a few people that had said

1152
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,680
that this had a weird gate

1153
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:08,240
rightly it had some kind of really weird

1154
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:10,400
like just the way it walks was very very

1155
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,280
strange

1156
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:13,359
it walks like a model it walks there's

1157
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,280
no straddle to it

1158
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,200
it's like glides

1159
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:19,440
you know yeah it glides or the jumps i

1160
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,480
mean it it yes it uh

1161
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,960
now i have seen the third i've seen the

1162
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:26,800
cryptid a third time

1163
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:29,520
um again a quarter mile away and that

1164
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:32,240
was on all fours

1165
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:33,839
uh and

1166
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:36,400
and i took pictures of that one also and

1167
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:38,720
it walked now that one i call the hyena

1168
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:41,680
one because it walked very awkwardly and

1169
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:45,119
with the lower back end so uh but the

1170
00:44:48,069 --> 00:44:47,200
the five toed seven pad

1171
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:48,079
uh

1172
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,359
encrypted

1173
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:52,160
uh he he's very small yeah he walks very

1174
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:54,000
smoothly over they fly he jumps i mean

1175
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:57,200
he jumps 15 20 feet at the flick of a

1176
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:59,040
just uh just

1177
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:00,400
you know

1178
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,190
or he's just gone i mean

1179
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:08,960
he will jump i have

1180
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,200
seen i have jump in the snow i've seen

1181
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:13,440
him jump nine 10 feet

1182
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:15,440
uh and land again and other times of

1183
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:16,960
course you're you're following along and

1184
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:20,240
they're just they're practicing so

1185
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,760
that's that was the other thing that

1186
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:23,440
really struck us too i had said chad

1187
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:24,960
lewis i didn't mean chad lewis the

1188
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,040
researcher chad there was a guy chad who

1189
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:29,440
was the director of the library okay he

1190
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:31,280
was very very very happy with what was

1191
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:33,760
going on he couldn't believe it um

1192
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:35,839
and when when we had this uh and that

1193
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:37,359
was that was the other thing too how

1194
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:40,000
fast the thing was and uh that was the

1195
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:42,160
other reports that we were getting a

1196
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,640
gentleman was coming down uh i guess he

1197
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,560
was coming down bowers road and he had

1198
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:48,960
seen in the distance this creature

1199
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,839
running seven feet tall on two legs and

1200
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,520
it was so fast

1201
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,079
and uh he was blown away by that and and

1202
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:58,079
the thing is what with him he had never

1203
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,800
heard of the beast of ray road so

1204
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:02,880
all of a sudden he sees this thing and

1205
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:04,880
then hears about it later

1206
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,200
and he's like wow did i hear that

1207
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,119
uh when we were out there in october i

1208
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,440
mean we had people coming up to us

1209
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,200
telling us their story that they saw

1210
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,319
this thing and running along the car

1211
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:18,160
running along in the field with the car

1212
00:46:21,589 --> 00:46:19,520
and then

1213
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,599
one of the pictures that lee has looks

1214
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:23,359
exactly like what those people were

1215
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,720
describing

1216
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,800
um we had a guy

1217
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:28,720
who was a state worker we couldn't

1218
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,359
really have his name on the video uh so

1219
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,520
we silhouetted him out

1220
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,079
and uh and another good friend of ours

1221
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:38,000
uh donna fink who is also another

1222
00:46:41,510 --> 00:46:39,520
researcher out there

1223
00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:41,520
she uh she was able to connect me with

1224
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:43,119
him and

1225
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:46,000
he basically heard the same thing we did

1226
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:47,599
he and a co-worker were getting out of

1227
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,640
the truck

1228
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:50,880
and they heard the same thing and this

1229
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,960
was in the middle of the day

1230
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:54,800
so they didn't know what to do they

1231
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:56,400
didn't know what it was

1232
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,520
um

1233
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,920
so now this particular time around we

1234
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:02,400
did the investigation uh lee showed us a

1235
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:05,280
lot of new pictures because lee i mean

1236
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,359
december right i mean

1237
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,839
activity's been been constant but i

1238
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:12,000
think december was like off the chart

1239
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,839
december was very active left many

1240
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:15,280
lights and i

1241
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:18,400
and i had in 2016

1242
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:21,040
uh the dnr stopped me from putting out

1243
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,599
roadkill deer in walworth county it

1244
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:25,920
became what was called a cwd chronic

1245
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:27,839
waste and disease county and you could

1246
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:30,319
not move deer previous to that i could

1247
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:32,319
find a deer on you know on the road i

1248
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,359
could call

1249
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:35,040
madison and they'd give me a number and

1250
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:36,800
i could pick the deer up and they

1251
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:39,280
stopped me in 2016.

1252
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,880
but in uh december of 2021

1253
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:44,640
my neighbor came over and he said i had

1254
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:46,400
harvested a deer

1255
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:48,800
would i want a carcass and a bucket of

1256
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,160
trimmings

1257
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,160
and i go yeah you're right you're right

1258
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,640
it's right here he's right next to my

1259
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:55,760
farm you know

1260
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,280
and i said yeah i can put that out um so

1261
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,280
so i did and

1262
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:03,760
lo and behold for two weeks

1263
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,640
which is not unusual for two weeks that

1264
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,599
carcass which was mainly was bone

1265
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:11,680
but the bucket of shrimp means why i

1266
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:13,920
dumped on top of the carcass

1267
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:17,680
nothing came no coyotes came no raccoon

1268
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,240
nothing came to eat that whatsoever

1269
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,200
until really december 24th

1270
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:24,640
of

1271
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:26,160
2021

1272
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:29,119
a mist came which happened

1273
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:31,599
you know previously almost every deer

1274
00:48:35,190 --> 00:48:32,800
mist came

1275
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:35,200
and yeah there you got the picture that

1276
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:39,119
missed that the myth came on my camera

1277
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:40,240
and

1278
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:41,359
i'll tell you

1279
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,800
let me finish this story i'll get leave

1280
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,640
that one up there leave that leave that

1281
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:47,520
one up there real quick anyway and uh

1282
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:49,440
and then the the

1283
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:50,160
the

1284
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,160
completely gone totally removed in front

1285
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,520
of a working game camera

1286
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,920
so this myth what you see here

1287
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:07,680
now if you go back to the previous

1288
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:09,520
picture vincent

1289
00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,240
okay so this i think is in 2013.

1290
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:16,240
this is the first time linda visited the

1291
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,359
farm

1292
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:19,520
i i talked to linda

1293
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:22,319
and and i met her for lunch and i said

1294
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,240
she's gonna come out to the farm and you

1295
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:26,559
know this is the first time

1296
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:28,839
and uh october

1297
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:34,870
november november november so this is

1298
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:36,640
the first time she'd come to the farm

1299
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,240
so we pulled up and i got out of the

1300
00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:40,079
truck i had a deer out

1301
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:41,839
and i got out of the truck and now

1302
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:43,920
there's a smell i smelled four or five

1303
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:46,880
times it is a very rancid

1304
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:49,680
i call it a dog skunk urine smell that's

1305
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,520
been in the sun too long

1306
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:53,440
and it's very rancid and we got all the

1307
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:56,160
trucking i said linda the smell is here

1308
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,599
and then there's oh that's a terrible

1309
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,520
smell i said well i'll make sure it's

1310
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:00,880
not the deer

1311
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:03,040
so i got out of the truck to walk up and

1312
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,960
check to see if the deer

1313
00:50:09,910 --> 00:50:07,200
had that smell but i knew it wasn't and

1314
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,920
i and said i said no the deer does not

1315
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:11,119
smell

1316
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,839
and when we got when i picked up the sd

1317
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,319
card we got back in the truck and here

1318
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,480
that mist was there this is the first

1319
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:20,480
one you got there is a two o'clock it

1320
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:22,000
looks like

1321
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:24,000
oh one o'clock but that mist had

1322
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:25,440
actually been there since 10 o'clock in

1323
00:50:27,910 --> 00:50:26,640
the morning

1324
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,920
and then

1325
00:50:32,309 --> 00:50:29,760
you can go ahead to the next picture i

1326
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,319
walked up to the deer

1327
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:34,720
and now go the next picture

1328
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,960
i walked as a bright oh no okay go back

1329
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:39,760
i'm sorry go back go back one i walked

1330
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:42,240
up to the deer nope go there you go

1331
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:44,240
perfect i walked up to the deer i said

1332
00:50:48,549 --> 00:50:46,000
no it does not smell

1333
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,559
and i picked up the sd card and when we

1334
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:49,760
looked at it

1335
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,520
we were saying oh look at 10 o'clock i

1336
00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:53,680
said that mist is here and this was a

1337
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,760
bright clear day you could not see any

1338
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,559
of that and and then it came and it got

1339
00:51:01,430 --> 00:51:00,559
to two o'clock and i said linda we were

1340
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:01,440
here

1341
00:51:04,230 --> 00:51:02,400
now

1342
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:04,240
that camera

1343
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,160
half of my body is gone

1344
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:10,400
there's no green screen here this is my

1345
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:13,119
moultrie camera or that's my tesco

1346
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:14,400
camera

1347
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:15,520
and

1348
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:25,040
what else could you call it

1349
00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:27,520
totally half of my body is gone and i

1350
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,119
was walking in it

1351
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:31,040
and the smell was there

1352
00:51:36,309 --> 00:51:34,319
uh the deer had not been moved yet but

1353
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,319
the the next day that when i put the

1354
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:37,839
camera back out

1355
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:40,000
uh the myth came and the deer was moved

1356
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:42,480
about 10 feet on that particular deer

1357
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,200
but

1358
00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:45,680
that that that can't you can't have that

1359
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:48,480
picture how can you have a camera taking

1360
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:51,599
a picture out in my hayfield

1361
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,000
that has that disturbance

1362
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:55,920
and it looks like a bull's eye if you

1363
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:57,280
look at it close

1364
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,880
um i get a white mist in my camera i get

1365
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:01,920
um

1366
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:04,400
i get uh this this multi-colored mist i

1367
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:05,839
call this one

1368
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:07,920
and then i get a black mist

1369
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,480
and if you go to the next picture

1370
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,960
um there's a black mist this black mist

1371
00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:14,800
came and there was a deer

1372
00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:17,200
i had a deer out that was laying there

1373
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,880
and the black mist came and that deer

1374
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:20,640
was carried 10 feet

1375
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:23,839
and dropped between two trees

1376
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:26,000
and that that black mist was there for

1377
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,760
about 20 minutes

1378
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:29,599
you think it may be some type of

1379
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:30,880
cloaking

1380
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,119
abilities it has to keep it from being

1381
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:35,520
seen on the camera oh oh abs absolutely

1382
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,960
there i have another several times i

1383
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:40,720
uh

1384
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:45,040
the deer was totally gone all the deer

1385
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:46,400
were carried away

1386
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:48,880
and i went up and to take pictures i

1387
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:51,680
took pictures of where the deer had been

1388
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:54,559
and then when i picked up the sd card

1389
00:52:59,910 --> 00:52:56,640
i did not trigger that that's that

1390
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:59,920
camera until my hand uh it's actually my

1391
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:00,800
hip

1392
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:04,640
uh came close to the camera to uh

1393
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,280
to to take out the sd card i was it was

1394
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,079
told i was totally close i was 15 feet

1395
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:12,000
from a working camera took no pictures

1396
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,440
of me

1397
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:15,040
so talking down

1398
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:17,680
this okay go ahead go i'll i just want

1399
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:19,280
to say we'll go ahead lee lee and i want

1400
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:20,480
to come back and tell you something

1401
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:22,319
about that because i had forgotten about

1402
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,839
the electronic stuff that night in the

1403
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:25,920
investigation

1404
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,040
yeah electronics electronics i've had sd

1405
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:31,440
cards get totally totally

1406
00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:33,119
uh

1407
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,319
renamed they put kpeg files on it and

1408
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:39,359
uh and the sd cards have just been

1409
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,640
i had forgot i had forgotten

1410
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,960
cameras just stop working and then and

1411
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:46,400
that change the sd card they start

1412
00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:48,880
working again and multi says our cameras

1413
00:53:53,349 --> 00:53:50,880
don't fix themselves i said well they

1414
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:53,359
kind of do

1415
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:55,119
that's what i forgot to tell you before

1416
00:53:59,510 --> 00:53:56,960
uh guys that when we were doing the

1417
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,520
investigation lee had the uh the trail

1418
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:00,960
cams on

1419
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,880
that day yeah so i get it so we get done

1420
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:07,200
we get done the investigation the next

1421
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,160
morning

1422
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:10,800
we had breakfast with lee at the local

1423
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,960
uh diner and then we we had a fly back

1424
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,559
to bucks county but i got a text from

1425
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:15,760
lee

1426
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:18,400
saying that oh by the way

1427
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,800
the trail cams never went off there's no

1428
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:22,800
pictures of you guys out there last

1429
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:25,040
night it was like something shut it off

1430
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:26,800
at five o'clock

1431
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:28,559
and then it didn't turn on again until

1432
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,190
and then scott scott had a gopro set up

1433
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:37,119
too we didn't get anything recorded on

1434
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:40,079
the gopro so something knocked it off

1435
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:41,040
now

1436
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,799
this last time we were there i just want

1437
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:44,640
to say this real quick

1438
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,359
was uh and lee and i know lee was blown

1439
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,720
away by this too

1440
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:51,040
so this this last investigation we went

1441
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,200
into this new area where we actually saw

1442
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:55,839
those square tracks

1443
00:55:01,349 --> 00:54:58,960
and we all had our hotel room cards in

1444
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:01,359
our pockets i'm on video

1445
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,440
and uh we had

1446
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,520
my my

1447
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:07,920
was in was in my pocket

1448
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,480
dominic satell my other team member he

1449
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,359
had it in his pocket scott had it in his

1450
00:55:18,069 --> 00:55:15,839
ellen kept hers in the truck

1451
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,079
so we're out in that in that field and

1452
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,400
when we got back to the hotel those

1453
00:55:23,829 --> 00:55:23,040
cards didn't work wiped them wiped them

1454
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:23,839
out

1455
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,510
that's bizarre yeah we've got um we've

1456
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:33,520
got we've got a picture of some hair as

1457
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,920
well can you talk a bit about that yeah

1458
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:38,400
okay so this i i have some i have

1459
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:40,880
pictures of the of the piece of bray

1460
00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:43,359
road like this if we go back one vince

1461
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:45,920
vincent please go back one this this

1462
00:55:50,870 --> 00:55:48,720
camera is five feet off the ground

1463
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:50,880
and this is a fairly recent one this is

1464
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:53,839
october 17 2021

1465
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:57,119
and i have pictures of it real close i

1466
00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:58,400
have pictures of far away and i have

1467
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,119
some

1468
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:01,599
actually eric knows i've showed him

1469
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:02,640
showing him

1470
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:04,480
uh i have some really pretty good

1471
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:07,040
pictures of the beast of brave road but

1472
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,950
keeping those hit for a while

1473
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:19,030
um but here is here is the type of hair

1474
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,079
that

1475
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:22,079
uh this camera was five feet off the

1476
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:23,680
ground and this

1477
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:25,839
i mean there's no it's not a dog it's

1478
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:27,760
not a coyote it's not a dog it's not a

1479
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,160
deer it's not a person there's no person

1480
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,119
out in my field it's very very isolated

1481
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:35,119
uh there's nobody out there in a gilly

1482
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:36,000
suit

1483
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:37,119
so

1484
00:56:40,950 --> 00:56:39,040
tell me what would be five feet off the

1485
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:40,960
ground and would have this

1486
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:43,760
this type of of hair configuration you

1487
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,559
know

1488
00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:46,079
it kind of looks like hair that might be

1489
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,480
coming off a shoulder down an arm

1490
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,040
yeah it does and i have i have some

1491
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:53,280
pictures of shoulders and arms and you

1492
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:56,400
know and uh pectoral muscles

1493
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,599
um

1494
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,440
you know i have over a hundred thousand

1495
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:01,359
pictures on my computer so

1496
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:04,240
uh and and majority of them have

1497
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:08,000
uh superna in paranormal implications so

1498
00:57:13,549 --> 00:57:10,799
uh then then if you go so that's that

1499
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,559
that that was on my camera but in

1500
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:15,200
2016

1501
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:18,000
okay go one more vincent please i picked

1502
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:20,079
i found this hair go you're going to i

1503
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:21,520
found this hair

1504
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,520
on a bush two and two feet off the

1505
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,359
ground in

1506
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,440
on my fence line it was a bush on my

1507
00:57:32,069 --> 00:57:28,960
fence line

1508
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,079
and uh it i have that hair

1509
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:34,480
and uh i bought a

1510
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:36,160
microscope to

1511
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:37,920
take picture to take pictures of it

1512
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:40,480
because i i called um university of

1513
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:41,599
madison

1514
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,920
and they wanted two thousand dollars

1515
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:45,440
that's part of the part of the hair that

1516
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,760
was on the uh

1517
00:57:51,030 --> 00:57:50,000
was on was on that bush two feet off the

1518
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:51,040
ground

1519
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:52,880
and i think next you should have a

1520
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:55,280
microscopic pictures of it

1521
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:57,599
if we go one more

1522
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:58,799
yeah there

1523
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,599
and there's no sheath to it there's no

1524
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:03,680
there's no center there's no

1525
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:05,920
there's no uh covering there's no i was

1526
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,559
just gonna say it say

1527
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,319
so you're getting to that point lon

1528
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,680
where you just said does this have a

1529
00:58:16,030 --> 00:58:14,160
cloaking device and there you go i mean

1530
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:16,040
it's like a translucent maybe it's a

1531
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,400
translucency that's causing it yeah

1532
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:20,640
because right you know in hair that's

1533
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:23,440
suspected even a bigfoot it's got a cord

1534
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,559
to it

1535
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,160
uh

1536
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:28,240
but i i don't think i've ever seen

1537
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,640
anything like this before

1538
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:32,720
there's no hair that matches

1539
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:34,400
and you know

1540
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:38,799
would pay the 2000 which you know

1541
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,760
to have his dna tested and probably come

1542
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,359
back unknown but

1543
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,680
you can look at my microscope pictures

1544
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,400
of it and see it matches

1545
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:51,040
in the brown hair that's the white hair

1546
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,119
do we have another picture do i send you

1547
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:55,359
some more vincent

1548
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:56,960
yeah that's more white but the brown

1549
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:57,760
hair

1550
00:59:03,109 --> 00:58:59,760
there's the brown here that's like

1551
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:03,119
segmented and it's got little uh it's

1552
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:05,440
got little hooks on it and that's why

1553
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:08,720
there's so much debris in my sample

1554
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,109
uh i don't see any on that one but um

1555
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:17,680
it's it's segmented and there's some of

1556
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:19,760
the hair has a hook on it

1557
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:22,240
is that one back there too

1558
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:23,359
i don't see it on that particular

1559
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,640
picture but

1560
00:59:28,870 --> 00:59:26,400
right there

1561
00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:28,880
yeah they're they're

1562
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:37,430
boy that's bizarre

1563
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,440
i mean it's just so bizarre i mean this

1564
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:41,440
story gets more and more bizarre and the

1565
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:43,920
more that you're out there investigating

1566
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,720
uh

1567
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:46,400
you'll see i mean

1568
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:47,839
this last time that we were out there

1569
00:59:52,549 --> 00:59:49,599
unfortunately the weather got us this

1570
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:52,559
time um we didn't you know uh i don't

1571
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:54,240
want to say too much because i'm editing

1572
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:56,319
the uh video and i want i get it i want

1573
01:00:01,270 --> 00:59:57,920
people to uh

1574
01:00:03,190 --> 01:00:01,280
to be surprised but i will say this

1575
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,200
though um oh yeah there's there's that

1576
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,559
picture there um

1577
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:06,319
we when we were here

1578
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:07,599
i'll talk about that one there's

1579
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,079
something down in that bait area that is

1580
01:00:14,309 --> 01:00:12,160
that's very very strange because when we

1581
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:14,319
were down there the wind was blowing

1582
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:16,240
like crazy when we were when we were

1583
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:18,799
walking to that area when we got down to

1584
01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:20,960
the bait area where we had all that

1585
01:00:24,309 --> 01:00:22,000
activity

1586
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:24,319
everything got dead quiet the wind

1587
01:00:27,109 --> 01:00:25,440
stopped

1588
01:00:28,789 --> 01:00:27,119
and there was no you know there's trees

1589
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:28,799
there but nothing's really blocking the

1590
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:30,799
wind it was all open and the leaves were

1591
01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:32,960
off so it was everything was pretty much

1592
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:35,760
open there but it had got dead quiet in

1593
01:00:39,990 --> 01:00:38,319
that area so to me there's something in

1594
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:40,000
that area that we're going to keep

1595
01:00:43,750 --> 01:00:41,119
looking at

1596
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:43,760
um and and what's going on that's that

1597
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,670
this again you know you get the pictures

1598
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:52,000
too close or too far away although i do

1599
01:00:55,670 --> 01:00:53,359
have some that

1600
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,680
are perfect but anyway um this

1601
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:57,359
particular one

1602
01:01:00,230 --> 01:00:59,119
if you this is a quarter mile from my

1603
01:01:01,030 --> 01:01:00,240
camera

1604
01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:01,040
now

1605
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,240
there's a

1606
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,720
looks like a small tree

1607
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,160
to the to the

1608
01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,160
to the right of it to the right of that

1609
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:10,160
figure

1610
01:01:13,910 --> 01:01:11,599
there's a small tree i don't know if he

1611
01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:13,920
can zoom in on that or not there's a

1612
01:01:18,150 --> 01:01:16,079
small tree to the right of that figure

1613
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,160
uh yeah that tree right there it didn't

1614
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:20,640
come okay i mean that tree i measured

1615
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:27,910
okay so that puts that figure

1616
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:32,160
at least six to six to seven feet tall

1617
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:34,240
and wide

1618
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,599
that's that's that thing's a quarter

1619
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:37,359
mile away that

1620
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:39,599
that's a very large tree that's a bunch

1621
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:42,400
of large animals yeah

1622
01:01:49,430 --> 01:01:48,069
what's this song only

1623
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,440
i don't know

1624
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:51,040
i think you were doing i think you were

1625
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:52,559
doing a measurement lee of hell oh

1626
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:54,799
that's right that's a tape okay that's

1627
01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:55,680
yeah

1628
01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:01,440
that's actually

1629
01:02:04,789 --> 01:02:02,960
you guys got that off my blog site

1630
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:04,799
that's actually my son

1631
01:02:11,430 --> 01:02:08,160
uh saw saw uh

1632
01:02:13,029 --> 01:02:11,440
our eyes above that uh that that time my

1633
01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:13,039
my hay field i couldn't cut it was too

1634
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:13,920
wet

1635
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,240
and uh

1636
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,270
you guys went away

1637
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:23,920
we can still hear you

1638
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,349
but it was uh

1639
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:34,390
yeah i mean you can hear me

1640
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:37,920
i lost the video yeah

1641
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:40,799
how do i get back on

1642
01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:44,400
anyway uh that that was uh my son had

1643
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:47,119
seen eyes above that and that was over

1644
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:49,839
six feet tall

1645
01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:56,710
yeah i mean the uh

1646
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:58,640
every time we go out to that property

1647
01:03:01,589 --> 01:03:00,400
there's something that happens you know

1648
01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:01,599
and uh

1649
01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:03,359
and this particular time like i said we

1650
01:03:08,309 --> 01:03:05,039
were out in that in that area where we

1651
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:08,319
saw these the the square tracks which we

1652
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:10,079
were calling them the knuckle walkers

1653
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,359
because

1654
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,599
it just looks like like just lee said it

1655
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:15,200
looks like they're

1656
01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:16,640
out you know pounding down with their

1657
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:17,920
knuckles

1658
01:03:22,630 --> 01:03:20,400
and then just the weird way this thing

1659
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:22,640
walks uh was something that really

1660
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:24,559
struck me on this particular

1661
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:26,720
investigation and you'll see that in the

1662
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:28,640
video where we have a lot of people came

1663
01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:30,960
up and and were and were talking about

1664
01:03:37,349 --> 01:03:35,589
interesting

1665
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:37,359
i um

1666
01:03:46,390 --> 01:03:42,950
somehow affects the environment around

1667
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:46,400
it i mean you say about it getting quiet

1668
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:47,440
uh

1669
01:03:55,750 --> 01:03:49,280
feeling still do you think it has some

1670
01:03:58,470 --> 01:03:57,109
ask that again

1671
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:58,480
i don't think i understood your question

1672
01:04:01,430 --> 01:04:00,240
yet go ahead in other words you you

1673
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:01,440
mentioned

1674
01:04:05,589 --> 01:04:02,880
that uh

1675
01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:05,599
it gets quiet all of a sudden it uh

1676
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:06,720
it's still

1677
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:08,720
do you think the beast has some type of

1678
01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:11,200
influence on that absolutely

1679
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,119
um the

1680
01:04:19,029 --> 01:04:15,599
if i get the mist and and

1681
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:19,039
uh you know or i get abnormal uh

1682
01:04:24,309 --> 01:04:21,599
pictures on my on my cameras

1683
01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:24,319
i see no coyotes i see no deer for a

1684
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:25,599
period of time

1685
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:27,599
i'll be and if you're out there and the

1686
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:30,480
crickets and everything

1687
01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:32,720
and you hear no more frogs or crickets

1688
01:04:40,150 --> 01:04:34,000
or

1689
01:04:43,349 --> 01:04:40,160
gonna be some experience of something

1690
01:04:45,430 --> 01:04:43,359
abnormal maybe a light maybe an orb

1691
01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:45,440
linda and i saw an orb come across the

1692
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:46,799
field

1693
01:04:52,390 --> 01:04:50,240
or or maybe a sound or if you're looking

1694
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:52,400
through your uh you know the night

1695
01:04:56,710 --> 01:04:53,680
vision

1696
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:56,720
you may see a figure or you may see

1697
01:05:01,349 --> 01:04:59,280
orbs

1698
01:05:02,069 --> 01:05:01,359
or you may see a figure a white figure

1699
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:02,079
or

1700
01:05:07,829 --> 01:05:04,880
a dark figure with your eyes so i mean

1701
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:07,839
it's uh all those have have taken place

1702
01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:09,280
in my hayfield

1703
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:11,039
have you seen any type of humanoid

1704
01:05:15,349 --> 01:05:13,200
figures or anything like that that look

1705
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:15,359
like maybe like a ghost or something oh

1706
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:17,760
oh sure i have uh

1707
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:19,760
i have uh i didn't send you in those i

1708
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:21,920
have uh yeah well that one there i sent

1709
01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:24,640
you yeah uh yes absolutely uh i just had

1710
01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:26,559
one two weeks ago that

1711
01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:29,359
uh appeared to be a

1712
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,680
a ghosted crowd he was standing up and

1713
01:05:34,390 --> 01:05:33,200
he's bent over

1714
01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:34,400
um

1715
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:39,599
uh mist or ghost right type figures yes

1716
01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:40,640
absolutely

1717
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:42,720
i have a black i have

1718
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:45,599
a black um figure that

1719
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,960
actually

1720
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:48,480
uh

1721
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:50,640
i have my trigger my camera set so it

1722
01:05:55,430 --> 01:05:53,359
triggers three pictures at a time i find

1723
01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:55,440
pictures work much better for my study

1724
01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:56,960
than videos

1725
01:06:00,789 --> 01:05:58,960
and uh and i might have a trigger take

1726
01:06:02,390 --> 01:06:00,799
three at a time and the first one

1727
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,400
there's no figure the second one there's

1728
01:06:06,630 --> 01:06:04,640
a translucent black figure

1729
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:06,640
and the third one there's a solid black

1730
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:08,799
figure and that's one second

1731
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:11,440
and it has just materialized

1732
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:14,400
virtually in front of your eyes

1733
01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:15,359
so

1734
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,880
and i get many

1735
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:18,799
abnormalities like the one the one you

1736
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:21,680
just had up there vincent uh that is

1737
01:06:28,870 --> 01:06:23,039
something

1738
01:06:32,710 --> 01:06:30,309
you know that's

1739
01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:32,720
that's just recent too i think that was

1740
01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:35,200
oh november 2021.

1741
01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:38,000
uh i mean there's no bugs out

1742
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:39,039
right

1743
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:40,880
uh and and i have

1744
01:06:45,270 --> 01:06:42,480
other uh

1745
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:45,280
many or abnormalities that are that are

1746
01:06:51,349 --> 01:06:48,000
in my in my camera and i get thousands

1747
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:51,359
hundreds of false triggers all the time

1748
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:53,599
i mean here this camera took a picture

1749
01:06:57,349 --> 01:06:55,119
of that

1750
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:57,359
what triggered the camera does that

1751
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:59,599
and i call moultrie i call tasco and

1752
01:07:04,630 --> 01:07:01,760
culvert and all they say it has to be

1753
01:07:07,589 --> 01:07:04,640
heat and light heat and motion not one

1754
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:07,599
or the other and heat and motion

1755
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:09,440
to trigger the camera that's what their

1756
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:10,799
game cameras

1757
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:13,359
so is that object we're looking at there

1758
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:16,240
that figure that is that have heat and

1759
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:18,480
motion what i mean it's

1760
01:07:23,990 --> 01:07:21,599
it has no form that i can

1761
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:24,000
you're the physics teacher tell us i

1762
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:25,839
really don't know

1763
01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:28,000
i didn't study quantum physics i think i

1764
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:29,520
didn't think about it i think we've got

1765
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:31,599
to get up to quantum physics and and

1766
01:07:36,789 --> 01:07:34,240
multi-verse universe math so right oh my

1767
01:07:38,230 --> 01:07:36,799
god you know just the you know the i

1768
01:07:40,069 --> 01:07:38,240
wanted to say also a couple of shout

1769
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:40,079
outs we got some really great people

1770
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,280
listening in tonight because they've

1771
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:43,119
been sending me messages we got a great

1772
01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:44,880
paranormal researcher

1773
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:47,920
morgan knutson is on from canada

1774
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:51,359
um also my buddy jim krug from altoona

1775
01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:52,559
pennsylvania

1776
01:07:55,109 --> 01:07:53,440
uh

1777
01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:55,119
and you know has got great questions

1778
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:56,400
here i'm sure we're going to probably do

1779
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:57,920
some question and answer type things too

1780
01:08:03,190 --> 01:07:59,920
but yeah i i've told the folks if you've

1781
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:03,200
got any questions uh put it in caps on

1782
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:05,920
the chat and yeah we'll we'll go ahead

1783
01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:08,720
and give it to the gentleman uh i gotta

1784
01:08:13,829 --> 01:08:09,520
ask

1785
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:13,839
have you had any type of paranormal or

1786
01:08:20,309 --> 01:08:16,799
unusual activity inside your home there

1787
01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,319
well again i live 35 miles away right

1788
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:22,319
and but i do stay up there certainly

1789
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:23,279
during

1790
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:26,239
the summer hay season i i i have a

1791
01:08:31,990 --> 01:08:28,880
bedroom in the i have a shed

1792
01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:32,000
it's a hundred by 120 by 60 foot shed

1793
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,839
that i store my hay in

1794
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:35,520
um

1795
01:08:39,749 --> 01:08:37,359
i i mean

1796
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:39,759
i have uh there's been

1797
01:08:44,630 --> 01:08:42,080
paranormal around the shed i have a

1798
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,640
picture of a one time the camera was a

1799
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:46,319
half mile away

1800
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:48,640
and that particular night i was staying

1801
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:50,400
there and

1802
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:53,040
and there was this

1803
01:08:57,430 --> 01:08:56,640
appeared to be a fire all the way along

1804
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:57,440
the

1805
01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:01,600
it was just all lit up

1806
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:03,759
and the camera a half mile away took a

1807
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:10,950
i have put the camera in my shed i have

1808
01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:13,839
not got i have not gotten any unusual

1809
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:15,120
pictures but

1810
01:09:20,229 --> 01:09:17,600
uh the sd card uh

1811
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:20,239
one when i put an sd card and the sd

1812
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:21,199
card

1813
01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:24,560
uh was totally totally manipulated uh in

1814
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:28,400
fact it was not accessible my computer

1815
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:30,880
uh just simply would not recognize i

1816
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:33,600
even had an sd card in the in the slot

1817
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:35,920
and i i have a friend and she helps me

1818
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:39,359
and she was she i gave it to her and her

1819
01:09:42,390 --> 01:09:40,799
computer just

1820
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:42,400
she put in slot and just gave her a

1821
01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:43,839
question mark

1822
01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:46,480
so there is manipulation i think on my

1823
01:09:52,149 --> 01:09:50,319
property but there are two trees that

1824
01:09:54,149 --> 01:09:52,159
are on the lane that i have going back

1825
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,159
they're about eighth of a mile from my

1826
01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:56,400
farm and i call those two

1827
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,430
trees of weirdness because most activity

1828
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:03,360
does happen in the back part but i've

1829
01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:04,560
had tracks

1830
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:05,360
uh

1831
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:07,679
near the barn that have been absolutely

1832
01:10:12,790 --> 01:10:10,159
the five-toed seven pad tracks and and

1833
01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:12,800
one time about

1834
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,360
a worker and i were sleeping there and

1835
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,280
something hit the shed

1836
01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,159
now again it could be somebody walking

1837
01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:22,480
they'll come to scare us sure but about

1838
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:24,400
eight feet up in the air about you know

1839
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:25,520
midnight

1840
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:26,400
um

1841
01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:29,600
something hit the shed and uh

1842
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:30,480
and

1843
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:34,719
that stuff they don't sneak around

1844
01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,880
they're gonna get shot they know i have

1845
01:10:40,550 --> 01:10:38,800
a 12-gauge shot getting a 20-gauge

1846
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:40,560
shotgun people don't

1847
01:10:50,390 --> 01:10:42,640
you know farm people do not

1848
01:10:53,910 --> 01:10:52,550
so yeah that's another one that i have

1849
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:53,920
in my field

1850
01:10:58,870 --> 01:10:56,560
uh a very large figure that you have up

1851
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,880
there now um

1852
01:11:02,709 --> 01:11:00,800
what was this taking lee

1853
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:02,719
uh

1854
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:05,199
oh that's linda

1855
01:11:09,669 --> 01:11:07,360
okay oh that's a little healthy that's

1856
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,679
not okay she's re-enacting i don't know

1857
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:11,440
where you guys got that she came and

1858
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:14,640
reenacted so we could tell how tall the

1859
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:16,000
image was

1860
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:17,840
uh that i had out there it was it

1861
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:19,199
appeared that

1862
01:11:22,870 --> 01:11:22,000
uh when we when she reenacted it

1863
01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:22,880
and

1864
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:25,199
then measured how she is about

1865
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:27,920
four and a half feet tall

1866
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,400
and uh

1867
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:32,400
yeah that's linda reenacting that you

1868
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:35,040
don't have the other one gotcha so that

1869
01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:36,320
the figure there was a figure right

1870
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:38,000
there is about four and a half feet this

1871
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:39,600
one again we're back this one that tree

1872
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:41,360
is 14 feet that

1873
01:11:47,669 --> 01:11:44,000
little green tree to the right so he's

1874
01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:47,679
probably six six seven feet tall

1875
01:11:52,149 --> 01:11:50,800
and wide he's blind too yeah he's big

1876
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,159
and linda

1877
01:11:57,669 --> 01:11:54,800
linda came and i had her come i went out

1878
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:57,679
there i'm 63 230 pounds

1879
01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:00,560
and she positioned me uh

1880
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,080
close to where she didn't quite get me

1881
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:04,320
where that creature is there

1882
01:12:07,750 --> 01:12:06,960
and then she tripped the camera

1883
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,760
and

1884
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:09,840
eric you've seen it right

1885
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:12,800
you you came i'm you can't see me i'm

1886
01:12:16,390 --> 01:12:15,040
six three 230 pounds

1887
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:16,400
and i'm

1888
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:18,719
half the size well the height about the

1889
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:21,440
same height but my body is

1890
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,000
nothing like that body

1891
01:12:28,390 --> 01:12:26,480
you know in those the mist this mist is

1892
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,400
is another thing too because you know

1893
01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:30,239
you saw those pictures with lee and he

1894
01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:32,320
kind of disappears in the mist

1895
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:33,280
um

1896
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:35,679
those pictures of the mist coming across

1897
01:12:40,630 --> 01:12:38,239
the deer it's coming into the deer could

1898
01:12:43,350 --> 01:12:40,640
this thing be cloaking itself in some

1899
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:43,360
kind of weird mist yeah because then the

1900
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:45,840
next picture the deer is gone and so is

1901
01:12:50,149 --> 01:12:46,960
the mist

1902
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:50,159
so it's it's very very strange um well i

1903
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:52,640
remember the i remember in the film the

1904
01:12:58,390 --> 01:12:55,040
the small towns monsters film they sh

1905
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:58,400
and i think lee was in his car taking

1906
01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,120
orange truck taking the uh images where

1907
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:03,440
this mist came out on it on a road

1908
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:04,719
killed deer

1909
01:13:11,350 --> 01:13:05,840
and

1910
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:11,360
it has done that yes yeah

1911
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:12,880
it it it

1912
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:15,920
it'll be it hovers sometimes and then

1913
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:18,000
within

1914
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:20,000
a third of a second it's gone

1915
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:21,199
yeah

1916
01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:22,000
yes

1917
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:23,360
interesting

1918
01:13:27,270 --> 01:13:25,840
let me ask you this uh eric now you were

1919
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:27,280
out there twice

1920
01:13:31,110 --> 01:13:29,679
and you guys were staying in hotels

1921
01:13:34,070 --> 01:13:31,120
did did you

1922
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:34,080
seem to have any type of um

1923
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:36,000
strange things happen to you away from

1924
01:13:40,149 --> 01:13:38,640
the site uh either hotel or restaurant

1925
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:40,159
or any place else

1926
01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:41,679
well it's funny you answered you asked

1927
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,120
me that because

1928
01:13:49,030 --> 01:13:45,360
the night that we did the investigation

1929
01:13:51,430 --> 01:13:49,040
on the farm in october of of 2021

1930
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:51,440
the entire town of elkhorn lost power

1931
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:56,470
when we got up the next morning they

1932
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:57,760
were still trying to figure out the

1933
01:14:01,590 --> 01:13:59,120
lights were flickering all over the

1934
01:14:03,510 --> 01:14:01,600
place so i had

1935
01:14:05,590 --> 01:14:03,520
i looked in my room and here i had i

1936
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,600
brought a stick back with me from the it

1937
01:14:10,149 --> 01:14:07,440
must have been on my boot i brought it

1938
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:10,159
back it was on my hotel room floor and

1939
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:11,760
dominic says you brought it back with

1940
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:12,880
you didn't you

1941
01:14:16,790 --> 01:14:14,400
so but hey you know

1942
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:16,800
i i don't know

1943
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:17,520
but

1944
01:14:23,030 --> 01:14:20,400
yeah it was just really strange so

1945
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,040
uh but this time now again we went out

1946
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:25,600
there again the wi-fi went out all the

1947
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:28,080
way into the wi-fi so could that be an

1948
01:14:32,790 --> 01:14:29,760
electronic thing on their part i don't

1949
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:32,800
know but that first time though was very

1950
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:34,080
strange

1951
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:35,760
i thought we were going to have to scrub

1952
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:38,159
the entire uh uh

1953
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:41,120
investigation in october because earlier

1954
01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:42,400
it looked like it was going to rain it

1955
01:14:47,910 --> 01:14:45,760
was really cloudy it was really bad but

1956
01:14:49,910 --> 01:14:47,920
after we left lee from the barn we took

1957
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:49,920
the the four wheelers down and dominic

1958
01:14:52,550 --> 01:14:51,280
was like should we take the four

1959
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:52,560
wheelers we don't want to scare this

1960
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:53,679
thing away

1961
01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:56,480
obviously it didn't get scared so um but

1962
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,920
we went down there when we went to the

1963
01:15:03,510 --> 01:14:59,199
field

1964
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,520
clear as a bell you could see stars

1965
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:05,440
everything just opened up

1966
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,760
and that's when immediately we saw that

1967
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:09,520
orb go over

1968
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:11,360
and uh and then it was just we had like

1969
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,400
a trifecta of of paranormal activity

1970
01:15:18,149 --> 01:15:16,800
literally within 10 minutes

1971
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:18,159
we we

1972
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:20,239
we won't say how fast you guys came back

1973
01:15:24,070 --> 01:15:22,000
in my chat

1974
01:15:26,630 --> 01:15:24,080
we'll say we'll say it because we beat

1975
01:15:28,470 --> 01:15:26,640
feet back there man we got out of there

1976
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:28,480
but uh i'll tell you you know because

1977
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:30,800
lee i mean and lee could tell you too he

1978
01:15:34,709 --> 01:15:33,120
could see our faces we were visibly

1979
01:15:38,470 --> 01:15:34,719
shaken

1980
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:38,480
absolutely physically physically shaking

1981
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:41,440
yeah um vincent asked lee if he

1982
01:15:47,510 --> 01:15:43,600
he or his family or anybody there had

1983
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:49,350
well i mean i mean

1984
01:15:53,669 --> 01:15:51,520
i know what this can i know what this

1985
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:53,679
creature can do right i've been a pick

1986
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:56,560
up 150 200 pound deer and carried away

1987
01:16:02,149 --> 01:15:59,199
i've seen it uh cut

1988
01:16:05,270 --> 01:16:02,159
uh you know as a shoulder you have that

1989
01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:05,280
picture i think where it uh if he to put

1990
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:07,920
that one up where it cuts the shoulder

1991
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,280
right off of a

1992
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:11,280
deer a front quarter

1993
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,640
and and takes away the front quarter uh

1994
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:15,920
i mean

1995
01:16:24,310 --> 01:16:16,640
and

1996
01:16:26,709 --> 01:16:24,320
these two trees

1997
01:16:28,229 --> 01:16:26,719
and then the right front quarter was

1998
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:28,239
cut it's it's

1999
01:16:32,310 --> 01:16:30,000
i wouldn't say surgically but it's

2000
01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,320
definitely not chewed it's cut off and

2001
01:16:35,910 --> 01:16:34,480
carried away uh

2002
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:35,920
and uh

2003
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:38,480
and and i know what the animal can do or

2004
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:40,320
what the creature can do all right and

2005
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:42,000
so

2006
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:44,719
if it would want to hurt me i think it

2007
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:47,600
it has had many opportunities yeah uh

2008
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,040
one time

2009
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:51,920
i uh i set up a camera

2010
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:53,600
i walked in front of the camera because

2011
01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:54,880
i was going to

2012
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:56,480
check for tracks and actually my

2013
01:17:00,550 --> 01:16:58,239
neighbors feel so i walked in front of

2014
01:17:01,990 --> 01:17:00,560
the camera like 15

2015
01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:02,000
you know 20 feet in front of the camera

2016
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:05,440
and i continued uh around you know round

2017
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:07,440
away from the camera

2018
01:17:12,550 --> 01:17:08,640
and

2019
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:12,560
came back

2020
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:15,040
and the camera was all twisted

2021
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:18,320
and and and the next thing you see you

2022
01:17:19,990 --> 01:17:19,199
saw

2023
01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:20,000
in

2024
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,679
is my face or my hat actually

2025
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,679
and i'm straightening the camera back

2026
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:33,360
out i was only been gone about 10

2027
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:34,800
minutes

2028
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:38,400
uh and and that camera was visibly

2029
01:17:42,709 --> 01:17:40,000
turned twisted

2030
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:42,719
so he was it was right there

2031
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:43,600
i mean

2032
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:46,080
it it hit my truck with a stick

2033
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:46,960
uh

2034
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:47,840
in

2035
01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:51,600
november october 2019

2036
01:17:57,110 --> 01:17:54,800
nope 2020 i'm sorry 220. uh i was

2037
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:57,120
driving along my fence line 7 30 at

2038
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:00,480
night and uh and all of a sudden pow my

2039
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:02,719
truck got hit with a stick you know

2040
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:05,120
and i go okay you know so i threw it in

2041
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:08,000
reverse backed up about 15 20 feet

2042
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:10,880
and there was nothing there it was still

2043
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:14,480
dusk it was in this it was in september

2044
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:17,280
so it was still light at 7 30 of dusk

2045
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:18,880
and there was nothing in the woods that

2046
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:20,719
i was looking at you know i could see

2047
01:18:24,390 --> 01:18:21,760
nothing

2048
01:18:26,950 --> 01:18:24,400
uh i had a friend reenact that with me

2049
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:26,960
and he's 6'5 and i went out with the

2050
01:18:31,189 --> 01:18:28,880
truck and i and the next morning i went

2051
01:18:33,430 --> 01:18:31,199
back and there was a foot long stick

2052
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:33,440
laying in my field and i had scratches

2053
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:34,320
on the

2054
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:40,400
my rear my rear wheel well uh there were

2055
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:43,120
scratches on my paint and there was a

2056
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:45,199
foot long stick there well then

2057
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:46,400
we were

2058
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:48,640
you know re-enacting and he was you know

2059
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,320
thrown down and you guys know but

2060
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:51,840
probably over more you're gonna you know

2061
01:18:54,790 --> 01:18:53,280
we gotta get the angle which the

2062
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:54,800
scratches were at

2063
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:56,800
and he looked down and here were three

2064
01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:58,480
more sticks

2065
01:19:01,669 --> 01:19:00,080
that would have been broken and about

2066
01:19:04,709 --> 01:19:01,679
foot long pieces

2067
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:04,719
so it was right there

2068
01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:07,600
so i i know what it can do

2069
01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:10,239
either like i don't want to give it like

2070
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,920
like eric says

2071
01:19:14,950 --> 01:19:13,840
he said i don't want to feed the beast

2072
01:19:17,910 --> 01:19:14,960
so yeah

2073
01:19:20,229 --> 01:19:17,920
i do take precautions absolutely

2074
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:20,239
the one the one neighbor

2075
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:22,960
when she found out she lived

2076
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:24,880
she married and actually

2077
01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:27,679
owned the farm that i i bought purchased

2078
01:19:31,830 --> 01:19:29,280
from her son

2079
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:31,840
and she came over and she told me she

2080
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:34,640
had lived there for 60 years she was 80.

2081
01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:37,760
and she said we'll leave you know i i

2082
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:40,480
hear you have pictures and uh

2083
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:42,320
and i said so have you seen the beast i

2084
01:19:46,470 --> 01:19:44,480
said no but i i

2085
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:46,480
i don't don't go out there at night

2086
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:48,000
alone

2087
01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:50,880
so that was her advice to me do you

2088
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:51,760
think

2089
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:52,480
that

2090
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:54,800
and i'm inferencing a

2091
01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:57,199
a comment in here

2092
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,960
that there's anything evil about these

2093
01:20:01,830 --> 01:20:00,800
beings

2094
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,840
no

2095
01:20:05,590 --> 01:20:03,840
i don't think there's any evil i don't

2096
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:05,600
think there's any evil someone asked a

2097
01:20:10,629 --> 01:20:07,840
question could these be demons right but

2098
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:10,639
that's what i was referring to um

2099
01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:12,000
i don't

2100
01:20:17,350 --> 01:20:15,280
think that's the case here um i do think

2101
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:17,360
yeah there's definitely a phenomena

2102
01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:18,560
going on

2103
01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:20,159
and someone had mentioned is there

2104
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:21,760
multiple phenomena yeah i think there's

2105
01:20:24,790 --> 01:20:23,280
a lot of multiple phenomenas going on

2106
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:24,800
there's a lot of things

2107
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,360
um as far as evil

2108
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:29,280
uh you know i don't know lee i mean even

2109
01:20:34,709 --> 01:20:32,239
though it's there right and i mean i

2110
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:34,719
didn't i didn't even though it was it

2111
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:35,520
was

2112
01:20:40,470 --> 01:20:38,320
you know startling to hear that howl

2113
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,480
we still stayed out there for a little

2114
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:42,000
while but yeah i mean

2115
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:44,719
i didn't get like i guess initially yeah

2116
01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:46,400
you mean you could be like you know that

2117
01:20:51,189 --> 01:20:48,800
frightening thing which we were

2118
01:20:52,470 --> 01:20:51,199
um but i didn't get and i didn't want to

2119
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:52,480
give it the chance like we were just

2120
01:20:57,189 --> 01:20:55,440
talking about uh as far as being in the

2121
01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:57,199
in the danger zone there

2122
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:00,239
um i didn't feel like that in a sense of

2123
01:21:04,470 --> 01:21:01,920
a doom or anything like that like

2124
01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:04,480
impending doom you admit lon you had

2125
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:06,639
mentioned predation mm-hmm did you think

2126
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:08,320
there was any predation i don't i didn't

2127
01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:09,600
feel that

2128
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:11,040
uh like that

2129
01:21:15,669 --> 01:21:13,600
i think what i felt and i'm sure lee

2130
01:21:17,910 --> 01:21:15,679
maybe agrees i think they're about

2131
01:21:19,910 --> 01:21:17,920
they're it's curious about us as we are

2132
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:19,920
about it

2133
01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:22,080
well that's probably true

2134
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:23,920
you know i i we have found that with

2135
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,159
other cryptids and they seem to a lot of

2136
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,480
them seem to be just curious but the the

2137
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:30,960
the red glowing eyes uh and ellen did

2138
01:21:35,590 --> 01:21:33,440
some research on this too the uh

2139
01:21:37,590 --> 01:21:35,600
that that has got to be producing so

2140
01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:37,600
much energy in order to

2141
01:21:42,790 --> 01:21:39,760
to have that a constant because that's

2142
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:42,800
what lee had seen was basically it was a

2143
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,159
constant red

2144
01:21:47,590 --> 01:21:46,320
glowing eyes right it was like

2145
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:47,600
aluminum

2146
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:50,400
in my my in my eye i didn't have a meter

2147
01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:52,080
but the luminosity

2148
01:21:56,390 --> 01:21:54,400
remained consistent from when it was

2149
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:56,400
looking at me beside the road and when

2150
01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:58,800
it was 40 feet out in the field

2151
01:22:03,030 --> 01:22:01,600
the the one red eye saw them was just as

2152
01:22:05,669 --> 01:22:03,040
bright as

2153
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:05,679
they were up by the road so it and was

2154
01:22:09,590 --> 01:22:07,360
40 feet on the field

2155
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:09,600
my lights were not reflecting to that

2156
01:22:16,629 --> 01:22:14,790
and lon when you get out to this area

2157
01:22:18,629 --> 01:22:16,639
and if you ever see this area out there

2158
01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:18,639
it's a big area i mean

2159
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:19,840
this is a

2160
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:21,679
you see it in the video

2161
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:23,840
um but you could see it's a large

2162
01:22:28,149 --> 01:22:26,239
expanse of an area i mean it's beautiful

2163
01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:28,159
country i mean it's amazing and it's

2164
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:31,280
just uh but there's you know there's big

2165
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:34,880
long expanses of area but there are also

2166
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:38,719
there's a lot of trees tree lines uh lee

2167
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,800
has got some video which is just

2168
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,440
phenomenal of these ufo type lights

2169
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,120
going through the trees

2170
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:47,600
now we were down in that area there's no

2171
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:49,920
way that these could be like motorcycles

2172
01:22:54,550 --> 01:22:52,320
or atvs or anything like that because

2173
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:54,560
it's in the woods are so thick there

2174
01:22:58,550 --> 01:22:56,159
they would be stopping and having to

2175
01:23:01,590 --> 01:22:58,560
turn this and that this was just smooth

2176
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,600
motion going through and it was just

2177
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:03,760
that really really struck me

2178
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:06,159
as like wow there's really something

2179
01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:09,120
beyond the beyond going on here

2180
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:11,440
and the motion was was

2181
01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:14,400
was up and down it continued

2182
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:15,360
in a

2183
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:17,360
horizontal well you know

2184
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:20,159
actually uh east west well east-west

2185
01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:21,600
direction but

2186
01:23:24,790 --> 01:23:23,120
it it went in

2187
01:23:26,709 --> 01:23:24,800
around the trees it went amongst the

2188
01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:26,719
trees and you came around them

2189
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:27,760
yeah

2190
01:23:33,270 --> 01:23:31,360
uh firemaker asked lee has the uh beast

2191
01:23:37,830 --> 01:23:33,280
ever influenced your psyche or anyone

2192
01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:37,840
else's can it affect human minds

2193
01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:38,800
well

2194
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,550
oh yeah

2195
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:45,280
absolutely well first of all i've had

2196
01:23:50,629 --> 01:23:49,040
at least two times when i missed time um

2197
01:23:51,910 --> 01:23:50,639
i was

2198
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:51,920
there was a

2199
01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:55,040
the week after eric was there

2200
01:23:59,270 --> 01:23:57,520
on uh in october

2201
01:24:01,590 --> 01:23:59,280
there was another production crew that

2202
01:24:03,030 --> 01:24:01,600
was there from boulder colorado

2203
01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:03,040
and

2204
01:24:07,350 --> 01:24:05,280
i was i walked they they went out around

2205
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:07,360
8 30 the same time

2206
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,880
and uh

2207
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,800
i walked i took my

2208
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:12,719
my

2209
01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:16,880
and i was going to see if there any orbs

2210
01:24:21,030 --> 01:24:18,480
out there i did not do that when eric

2211
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:21,040
and those guys went out but i many times

2212
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:22,880
i'll walk out and just look at i see

2213
01:24:28,070 --> 01:24:24,480
orbs in my field

2214
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:28,080
on quite regular basis i mean i'd say

2215
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:30,320
80 of the time when i go look at

2216
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:33,040
infrared or take my scope i'll see orbs

2217
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:34,239
going around

2218
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:37,440
and uh and i i walked out

2219
01:24:40,229 --> 01:24:38,719
and

2220
01:24:42,709 --> 01:24:40,239
um

2221
01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:42,719
i looked and i saw there was a

2222
01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:45,920
a light along my north fence line

2223
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:47,679
well i thought that was the production

2224
01:24:52,310 --> 01:24:49,440
crew that were out there

2225
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:52,320
but at that time they have video and on

2226
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,320
my camera also they they said i had a

2227
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:56,800
camera by the wetland they were across

2228
01:25:01,030 --> 01:24:58,800
the field so that light

2229
01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:01,040
on my north fence line was a visible

2230
01:25:05,110 --> 01:25:02,080
light

2231
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:05,120
that and they also they they also saw it

2232
01:25:09,110 --> 01:25:06,880
and they have it in their video

2233
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,120
um but then when i started looking

2234
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:11,360
through my scope

2235
01:25:16,709 --> 01:25:13,760
uh saw a

2236
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:16,719
uh i call it a ghost fighter because it

2237
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:19,440
appears to be i don't it's it's it's one

2238
01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:20,239
of the

2239
01:25:24,830 --> 01:25:22,560
most uh

2240
01:25:27,590 --> 01:25:24,840
abnormal paranormal

2241
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:27,600
uh objects i've seen and i would look

2242
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:30,000
through with my eyes i could see nothing

2243
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:32,000
i looked through my infrared scope and

2244
01:25:36,390 --> 01:25:33,760
here was this

2245
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:36,400
fire or a ghost fire

2246
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:39,040
and and i i was okay i gotta get a i

2247
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:40,880
have to get a video of this

2248
01:25:45,669 --> 01:25:43,120
and i could i couldn't i could not

2249
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:45,679
figure out how to work the camera

2250
01:25:51,270 --> 01:25:49,520
i i the camera went to 2016

2251
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:51,280
instead of the time and date were

2252
01:25:55,110 --> 01:25:53,360
correct and they got all messed up and

2253
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:55,120
i'm trying to work the camera i'm just

2254
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:58,320
focusing as hard as i can i gotta get

2255
01:26:02,950 --> 01:25:59,920
this video

2256
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:02,960
of you know through my infrared scope

2257
01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:03,840
and

2258
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:10,480
thought i was talking

2259
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:13,199
and i don't talk at all

2260
01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:15,280
i thought he's talking about well that

2261
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:17,040
this looks like a fire through here but

2262
01:26:21,910 --> 01:26:19,280
when i look with my naked eye there's

2263
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:21,920
nothing there those those the whole

2264
01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:23,600
production crew was

2265
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:25,679
a quarter mile from it they

2266
01:26:29,270 --> 01:26:26,960
they never looked over and they didn't

2267
01:26:30,950 --> 01:26:29,280
look in that direction with their scopes

2268
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:30,960
i don't know if they had infrared scopes

2269
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:32,639
if they had but they certainly didn't

2270
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:34,239
see it with the naked eye

2271
01:26:39,270 --> 01:26:36,880
and i never talked once

2272
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:39,280
through that whole video

2273
01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:42,080
and i thought i was and i i knew i had a

2274
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:45,280
focus really hard to get that video so

2275
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:47,840
yes i knew that i might i knew i was

2276
01:26:52,310 --> 01:26:49,440
very confused

2277
01:26:54,149 --> 01:26:52,320
you know and lee had uh also you had

2278
01:26:56,629 --> 01:26:54,159
some missing time then too you didn't

2279
01:26:59,350 --> 01:26:56,639
realize that it was a certain time

2280
01:27:02,149 --> 01:26:59,360
yes absolutely and and

2281
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:02,159
now that but i had ridden down bray road

2282
01:27:06,629 --> 01:27:04,800
with that production crew like

2283
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:06,639
an hour before and i

2284
01:27:12,709 --> 01:27:09,360
had no memory of that whatsoever until

2285
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:12,719
they showed me the video of it

2286
01:27:16,390 --> 01:27:14,960
you know one of our team members ellen

2287
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:16,400
had you're talking about has it

2288
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:19,280
influenced your mind she had a dream and

2289
01:27:24,229 --> 01:27:21,199
i know lee's had several dreams too

2290
01:27:26,870 --> 01:27:24,239
about this this creature um

2291
01:27:28,629 --> 01:27:26,880
she had a dream that uh when we were out

2292
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:28,639
in the field that night and you could

2293
01:27:32,149 --> 01:27:29,679
see her

2294
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:32,159
when we first heard the howl she kind of

2295
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:33,440
just froze

2296
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:35,920
she says in that part of that

2297
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:37,840
production and what what happened there

2298
01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:40,239
with her she had seen the creature come

2299
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,199
up to her

2300
01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:43,199
and asked her to put her palm of her

2301
01:27:48,790 --> 01:27:46,719
hand out and the creature put his claw

2302
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:48,800
in her palm of her hand and she could

2303
01:27:53,669 --> 01:27:51,199
see what was going on why they why this

2304
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:53,679
thing was here what they what it wanted

2305
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,280
what it was what it was trying to do is

2306
01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:57,199
procreate the species

2307
01:28:02,629 --> 01:28:00,000
so that was one that was that was very

2308
01:28:03,910 --> 01:28:02,639
vivid to her in that particular time

2309
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:03,920
frame no

2310
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:05,840
but in the video obviously we're going

2311
01:28:09,270 --> 01:28:07,360
from one thing to the next and there was

2312
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:09,280
not there was no time lapse there that

2313
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,480
we could see or that we could you know

2314
01:28:16,390 --> 01:28:14,639
in reality see it could be that could be

2315
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:16,400
something completely different

2316
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:18,560
um and then i know lee you you've had

2317
01:28:23,590 --> 01:28:20,880
dreams about it too so it definitely

2318
01:28:27,270 --> 01:28:23,600
definitely does i do i have not

2319
01:28:29,669 --> 01:28:27,280
but i've been more of uh you know lee is

2320
01:28:31,350 --> 01:28:29,679
more connected i always say that

2321
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:31,360
there are people that are connected to

2322
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,480
the spirit world um you know even in the

2323
01:28:39,990 --> 01:28:36,960
ghost situations bigfoot

2324
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:40,000
uh these different cryptids um there is

2325
01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:42,239
some kind of connection to the a very

2326
01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:45,199
thin veil and i know that i think lee is

2327
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:46,880
very connected to this

2328
01:28:51,189 --> 01:28:48,719
and as a result of us being on the

2329
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:51,199
property we're connected to it as well

2330
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:54,000
let me give you one last question lee um

2331
01:28:59,669 --> 01:28:57,600
sir could you give us as much detail or

2332
01:29:02,870 --> 01:28:59,679
description of this beast that you can i

2333
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:05,669
well okay the first time

2334
01:29:11,189 --> 01:29:08,560
the first time i it was you know was at

2335
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:11,199
night and i could not see anybody

2336
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:12,639
i should have been able to see him body

2337
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:15,520
i i would say

2338
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:17,360
that the first when i went down the

2339
01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:19,600
embankment and then jumped into jumped

2340
01:29:23,110 --> 01:29:21,520
like 15 20 feet on field i was probably

2341
01:29:25,430 --> 01:29:23,120
80 feet from it

2342
01:29:27,830 --> 01:29:25,440
and i had my brights on and i should

2343
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:27,840
have been able to see body i saw nobody

2344
01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:31,120
i only could see those luminous red eyes

2345
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:33,840
uh the figure that i saw a quarter mile

2346
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:34,880
away

2347
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:37,760
uh was just a huge it appeared to be

2348
01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:39,360
brownish black

2349
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:42,639
and my my my pictures show that also

2350
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:45,040
uh it was not in a hurry it was crouched

2351
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:46,800
down like i said when i went over there

2352
01:29:49,910 --> 01:29:48,719
it was it had been drawing circles in

2353
01:29:50,950 --> 01:29:49,920
the ground

2354
01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:50,960
um

2355
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:53,440
and it up it walked away

2356
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:56,400
uh from me on two legs absolutely two

2357
01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:57,360
legs

2358
01:29:59,830 --> 01:29:58,159
and

2359
01:30:03,510 --> 01:29:59,840
again in that very

2360
01:30:06,149 --> 01:30:03,520
straight no straddle uh line uh

2361
01:30:09,189 --> 01:30:06,159
it it appears to walk like a model uh

2362
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:09,199
and in my snow tracks indicate that all

2363
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,239
the time

2364
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:12,560
uh and there's also there's no in my

2365
01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:15,280
snow tracks there's no drag marks

2366
01:30:19,430 --> 01:30:16,800
you see the coyote or deer they have

2367
01:30:22,550 --> 01:30:19,440
drag marks when this can walk in foot

2368
01:30:26,070 --> 01:30:22,560
snow and there's no drag marks

2369
01:30:28,950 --> 01:30:27,669
and other people have reported seeing a

2370
01:30:31,750 --> 01:30:28,960
tail

2371
01:30:33,750 --> 01:30:31,760
it was crouched down and then it turned

2372
01:30:36,870 --> 01:30:33,760
and i did not see a tail but again it

2373
01:30:39,110 --> 01:30:36,880
was a quarter mile away uh and uh

2374
01:30:40,149 --> 01:30:39,120
huge it was i knew it was huge i mean it

2375
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:40,159
was

2376
01:30:44,870 --> 01:30:42,719
uh when i saw it crouched down i go whoa

2377
01:30:46,070 --> 01:30:44,880
that thing's huge and that stood up like

2378
01:30:49,590 --> 01:30:46,080
a whoa

2379
01:30:52,229 --> 01:30:49,600
and again that game app or the app that

2380
01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:52,239
my my the guy who

2381
01:30:56,470 --> 01:30:54,159
is a camera guy in chicago said it was

2382
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,480
six and a half to seven feet tall

2383
01:30:59,990 --> 01:30:58,320
with the shoulders of three to three and

2384
01:31:02,390 --> 01:31:00,000
a half feet wide so

2385
01:31:03,830 --> 01:31:02,400
um but i did not see a tail that time

2386
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:03,840
either

2387
01:31:06,070 --> 01:31:05,199
interesting

2388
01:31:08,390 --> 01:31:06,080
well

2389
01:31:09,590 --> 01:31:08,400
guys i i really appreciate you coming on

2390
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:09,600
um

2391
01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:10,960
i've been wanting to talk to lee for a

2392
01:31:14,070 --> 01:31:12,560
long time

2393
01:31:15,590 --> 01:31:14,080
and uh

2394
01:31:17,750 --> 01:31:15,600
and eric thanks for

2395
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:17,760
coming in here and co-hosting with me

2396
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:19,920
tonight for this

2397
01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:23,360
milan anytime i mean we had such great

2398
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,440
lee and his brother fred are awesome

2399
01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:27,520
guys i mean you know we've gotten to be

2400
01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:29,920
friends now beside you know doing doing

2401
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:31,840
these investigations and

2402
01:31:36,149 --> 01:31:34,000
it's always fascinating talking to lee

2403
01:31:37,750 --> 01:31:36,159
and uh you know it's amazing i mean

2404
01:31:39,270 --> 01:31:37,760
there's just a phenomena there and if we

2405
01:31:42,229 --> 01:31:39,280
can get some answers that's what we're

2406
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:42,239
trying to do um i would encourage people

2407
01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:44,560
if if this is okay to say to check out

2408
01:31:49,270 --> 01:31:47,040
our youtube page uh eric mintel

2409
01:31:50,950 --> 01:31:49,280
investigates um and you could see the

2410
01:31:52,709 --> 01:31:50,960
video it's called bit the beast of bray

2411
01:31:54,390 --> 01:31:52,719
road alive and well you could like and

2412
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:54,400
subscribe to our channel

2413
01:31:59,189 --> 01:31:56,719
i'm gonna be putting a new follow-up

2414
01:32:01,910 --> 01:31:59,199
video out very very soon you're going to

2415
01:32:04,709 --> 01:32:01,920
see this incredible town hall lee speaks

2416
01:32:08,390 --> 01:32:04,719
at the town hall you're going to hear um

2417
01:32:09,830 --> 01:32:08,400
incredible eyewitness testimony um but

2418
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:09,840
you know we're go and we're back on the

2419
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,000
farm we're back on the farm doing a a

2420
01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:16,080
lot of really new techniques on this

2421
01:32:20,310 --> 01:32:18,320
particular investigation so i definitely

2422
01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:20,320
would encourage people to check it out

2423
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:23,440
and uh it's always always a pleasure

2424
01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:31,030
oh that's pretty cute i love it yeah

2425
01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:33,120
guys well thanks again for coming on and

2426
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:34,719
we'll have to you know anything else

2427
01:32:39,430 --> 01:32:36,880
comes up let me know maybe we'll have

2428
01:32:41,350 --> 01:32:39,440
something another show any follow-up to

2429
01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:41,360
what's going on and again much

2430
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:42,560
appreciated

2431
01:32:47,669 --> 01:32:45,120
lee uh enjoy yourself on coast to coast

2432
01:32:49,669 --> 01:32:47,679
tonight i'll be listening okay thank you

2433
01:32:52,229 --> 01:32:49,679
so you all take care and you have a

2434
01:32:53,430 --> 01:32:52,239
great weekend thank you thank you thank

2435
01:32:56,790 --> 01:32:53,440
you very much

2436
01:32:57,590 --> 01:32:56,800
have a good night bye

2437
01:33:01,750 --> 01:32:57,600
bye

2438
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:01,760
now if you have an unexplained encounter

2439
01:33:05,669 --> 01:33:03,360
society feel free to contact me through

2440
01:33:07,830 --> 01:33:05,679
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2441
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,840
i want to again thank lee and eric for

2442
01:33:11,110 --> 01:33:09,600
joining me this evening and thanks to

2443
01:33:12,070 --> 01:33:11,120
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2444
01:33:14,470 --> 01:33:12,080
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2445
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:14,480
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2446
01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:16,400
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2447
01:33:21,030 --> 01:33:18,159
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2448
01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:21,040
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2449
01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:23,199
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2450
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:24,960
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2451
01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:26,239
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2452
01:33:30,950 --> 01:33:28,719
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2453
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:30,960
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2454
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:33,360
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2455
01:33:39,669 --> 01:33:37,040
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2456
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:39,679
so next week my guest will be paranormal

2457
01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:41,679
researcher and author

2458
01:33:46,390 --> 01:33:44,080
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2459
01:33:48,629 --> 01:33:46,400
interesting accounts to present so make

2460
01:33:50,790 --> 01:33:48,639
sure to join us next friday night so

2461
01:34:01,660 --> 01:33:50,800
until next week stay healthy and have a